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Old 05-11-2009, 08:16 PM   #31 (permalink)
thespian86
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Originally Posted by Xerxys View Post
Manipulation? Positive spin?

Dude, you indicated somewhere (don't remember where, could be someone else with I associate with punk rock) that you don't have a problem with women or meeting peiople in general.

Have you ever paid attention to the things you do whilst in social settings? No you haven't. That's because it comes natural to you. Your body language. Your convos, what you say and when you say it.

It comes natural.

It doesn't for others. **points at himself** That's what PUA really is, a social science. It's what you do without thinking that we don't 'get'. If I manipulate others into liking me then so do you only you do it like it's a reflex reaction!
haha it's my time to be obtuse.

No I don't have a problem meeting women but that's because it isn't an activity to me. It's natural because all things in life are dude. When you put a negative or positive connotation on things you limit it's possibilities. I bomb with girls as much as I don't. That's because some people are going to like ME (that is the person I am and am happy to be) and some aren't. Me being some manipulative asshole won't change that because I'd be giving up my own goals, happiness, and needs to fulfill some need to conquer. The problem with that being you'll feel it's emptiness over time. You aren't actually conquering because you're cheating the system.

And I'm human. I'm constantly, and obsessively, aware of my actions and my words. I kick myself too. But to think that "talking to someone" is a skill, you create the monster you claim to be fighting.

And I couldn't disagree more with the last paragraph. It's about as much a social science as McDonalds is to food. It's a cheap excuse to get by; to live without reflection. You'll create a cycle for yourself. Some sort of made-up personality. And at one point you'll forget that it's made up and spend all of your time trying to solve THAT. It's a terrible idea.
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