05-09-2009, 08:32 PM
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#109 (permalink)
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... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.
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Originally Posted by robot_parade
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Didn't like:
o The biggest thing that bothered me was the silliness with the ice planet - and there was lots of it.
- Why would spock toss kirk on a frozen rock to begin with? Instead of, you know, the brig. I can maybe see that he was worried that McCoy or someone else would let him free again...but if he was afraid of McCoy doing that, then he could have brigged them both. You could also argue that he was showing signs of emotional loss of control over the loss of his planet/mother.
- The chased-by-monsters scene was cute, but a little too cute for my taste.
- The thing that really, really bothered me - Kirk just happens to run into the cave where old-spock is hanging out. Beyond improbable. Surely they could have set this up better.
o I would've liked maybe a little more homage to the original score.
o There wasn't quite enough 'Enterprise-pr0n' for my taste - there were some wide shots, and some very tight shots, and of course lots of action shots, but I really wanted just a nice 'look at me!' flyover of The Ship.
o Minor nits:
- They made a big deal about how hard it was to transport someone that was in motion with Kirk & Sulu, but then didn't have a problem with spock as he was ramming the mining ship, even though he would've been moving *much* faster.
- The supernova that 'threatened the galaxy' and then 'unexpectedly' toasted Romulus wasn't very clear at all. Hypothetically a big enough supernova could threaten large parts of the galaxy, but there would be plenty of time to know when and what it was going to hit - the fastest it could spread would be the speed of light, and warp drive is much faster.
- Speaking of speed, warp drive is obviously very fast, but it seemed like they got from place to place in just a few minutes. That doesn't seem to jive with the other info, or with what makes sense - otoh, the whole series has had lots of problems with exactly how fast warp drive is, so they get a pass on this one.
- How close to vulcan was the ice planet? If it was further than the same solar system as vulcan, then that doesn't make sense either.
- Ok, ok, this is petty, but when Scotty was trapped in the water-pipe thing, and kirk released him, not nearly enough water came with him, even if the hatch closed pretty quickly. I know, minor.
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Just a few small things, as I'm a massive nerd.
Spoiler: The ice planet is one of the moons of Vulcan. It's within visual distance from the planet, and it's the only place to drop off Kirk before warping to the fleet. It's also the perfect vantage point for old Spock to see Vulcan destroyed. It's not totally uncoincidental, I'll admit, but I can buy it. I just wish they would have made the location more clear.
Warp is s(w) = w3c, so warp 1 is the speed of light, warp 2 is 8 times the speed of light, warp 3 is 27 times the speed of light, warp 4 is 64 times the speed of light, and warp 5 is 125 times the speed of light. If I remember my Star Trek correctly, the NCC-1701 had a cruising speed of warp 6 (216 times the speed of light) and a maximum speed of warp 9 (729 times the speed of light). Vulcan is about 16 light years from Earth. If my math is right, that's about a 12 hour trip at maximum warp. I know you give them a pass, but I pretended you didn't so I could nerd out.
You're totally right about making the backstory more clear. If you want, I can email you a copy of the prequel comic books that lead to the movie. They fill in the blanks quite well.
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