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Old 05-08-2009, 02:29 PM   #33 (permalink)
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When did I ever say that? The Nixon defense is no reason for us to aspire to be like China, which I know you didn't suggest, but Ace seems to have.
I didn't suggest you did. I was merely pointing it out as a comparison. China has far more new to its economy than America does at the moment, and so you're going to get growing pains.

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When I see less of the horrible things I mentioned, I'll give them that. Until then, hell, anyone can screw people over.
Agreed. But, let's not paint everyone with the same brush.

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No, it isn't. It's ours. We should never have allowed outsourcing to happen.
I disagree. You honestly think outsourcing should have been made illegal and/or ruinously expensive? Wow, how isolationist of you. What is your opinion on other factors of global trade?

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It has to. Period. A country that doesn't make anything is relying on everyone else wanting to move little pieces of colored paper around for their economy to survive. That's a piss poor foundation on which to build a financial system.
Not true. There are economic systems based heavily on services and other industries that do just fine (economically). How strong is Saudi Arabia's manufacturing compared to oil and services? Not everyone can nor needs to make a lot of shit to succeed. You need to make use of what resources you have and move your economy to where the demand is. You need to innovate. You need to be flexible. You need to change rather than try hopelessly to bring a dead horse back to life. What happens when other economies steal your jobs and grow as a result? Their demand patterns shift, and they won't likely be able to fulfill them on their own. Find out what those other things are and offer them. In the case of North America, this is increasingly knowledge, technology, and services. There is much growth in domestic services as well.

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A Question, directed at those who insist that Mr. Obama is not a Socialist
Much of what I would suggest as answers lies here: Mixed economy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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