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Old 05-06-2009, 09:37 PM   #63 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by Manic_Skafe View Post
The words don't pour quickly nor elegantly enough out of my skull to keep up with these posts but I'd just like to point our your conspicuous use of the emphasized term and the fact that it serves to contradict your entire argument. We who, exactly? We the people? We the government?

Maybe it's my liberal land upbringing but I can't help but to find all of this hilarious.

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The "we" is the liberal white suburban idealist who propagates these ideas for some guilt fetish they have for being born or raised in the position they were while others suffer so. And the really warped thing is if you talk to these people and delve into their pasts you'll find the only blacks (I reall hate saying African American so I'm going to stop... it's separatist in my mind) they ever really met were either ones that grew up in their area or the ones they met in college. Very, very few who believe this have had to live in the "hood" for any length of time. Hell, I doubt some ever ventured into the "hood" after dark.

I used to think that way also, then I joined the military and met guys from the true inner cities of New Orleans, Newark, New York, LA, Chicago. Very few of them ever said anything about feeling "the white men holding them down". They looked at the military as a way to get out of the gangs and go to college or find a career. My best friend in the Navy was MS2 Mike Chisholm from Newark, he happened to be a black man, one who was extremely intelligent. He taught me a lot. He told me how he could have stayed in the "hood" but knew he was better than that.

I have met a lot of successful black men and women, far more successful than I have ever been and they all took pride in where they were. None of them once said "the white man held me down" or "the white man owes me". They accepted personal responsibility for their actions and moved forward and I have seen some of them called Uncle Toms and "sellouts" and traitors to the race. But, why? Because they accepted responsibility and didn't buy into the "white man is holding you down"?
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