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Originally Posted by Lucifer
A few hundred feet per gallon? I don't know where you get your facts, but here's something to think about:
On a single litre (about a 1/4 U.S. gallon) of fuel, one tonne of freight can travel 240 km by ship, compared with less than 100 km by train and less than 30 km by truck
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I won't argue with the basic fact, but the scale is waaay off. Some container ships are moving over 150,000 tons. Or tonnes, if you will. Not "one tonne of freight." In round figures, 37,000 gallons of fuel to move that ship your 240km.
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Originally Posted by roachboy
i still think we're looking at this in too narrow a way: the Problem lay with the architectures of the socio-economic system that these transportation elements are part of....the problem then is ot economy of scale but a particular set of ways to organize production around economies of scale....it's a very basic political question.
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Wow! This has to be serious if roachboy is willing to call it a Problem with an uppercase P.
The larger sustainability problem lies in the fact that the world population is closing in on SEVEN BILLION PEOPLE!
That is causing, and will continue to cause huge problems, because a population of seven billion is not sustainable (long term) regardless of whatever social and political "isms" prevail. The world is in desperate need of losing two or three billion living, breathing, eating, consuming, shitting, fucking, (and thereby reproducing) people. Through war, AIDS, swine flu, whatever. Any volunteers?
OK, not me either.
Lindy