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Old 05-05-2009, 08:47 PM   #61 (permalink)
Willravel
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What if the information needed was trivial to verify?
Can you elaborate? If we're torturing someone, wouldn't the information be important enough to verify? We don't exactly torture for unimportant information. At least I hope we don't.
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Honestly, I don't have my mind closed to arguments of its effectiveness from either side... but one thing in favor of those who would permit torture in some conditions, is the fact that it does have quite a historical precedent.
So does astrology. Historical precedent does not equate effectiveness, in fact it often speaks to a thing's outdatedness. But in all seriousness, don't ignore the massive evidence that torture doesn't work. Don't ignore numerous interviews with the most qualified people alive on the subject. Don't ignore FBI documents from Guantanamo that detail how torture hindered, not helped, their questioning of detainees. Don't ignore the fact that torturing Zarqawi not only yielded no demonstrable results, but the administration had to lie about it working (and were later caught in that lie).
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