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Originally Posted by Willravel
This assumes there aren't better, more effective, more efficient methods of extracting information. There are in any and all circumstances better, more effective, more efficient methods of extracting information, according to the foremost experts on the issue, therefore torture is never the moral thing to do. Unless you assume that you understand torture (or any questioning methods) better than the foremost experts in the world, you must then conclude, as I have, that torture has no place.
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Well, in any situation where there was an equally effective or more effective alternative to torture that was less morally treacherous, I would claim that torture is not justified.
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That's all moot, because there's no chance, not even a minuscule chance, of extracting reliable information via torture. You might get information, you may even get information that ends up correct, but only a fool would think it to be reliable. Torture does not yield reliable results.
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What if the information needed was trivial to verify? Honestly, I don't have my mind closed to arguments of its effectiveness from either side... but one thing in favor of those who would permit torture in some conditions, is the fact that it does have quite a historical precedent.