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Old 05-05-2009, 07:04 AM   #42 (permalink)
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pan---you act all shocked and outraged that there is a class structure and that this class structure has consequences. you act as though this represents some kind of Problem for the american political system. fact is that the system is built around the class structure. i just don't think you have a terribly coherent idea of what that means.

since you've taken to quoting one of my favorite american fascists, henry ford (you know, ole hank, the guy who sponsored the translation of the protocols of the elders of zion and who broke with hitler in the early 1930s because he wasn't anti-semetic enough; ole hank, the guy responsible for a sustained war on labor unions culminating in the lovely river rouge battles of the 1940s; ole hank, the guy who also decided to rationalize american folk music and dance because it offended his fascist sense of nation that there were multiple traditions...good old henry ford...a jonas brother amongst intellectuals), i'll offer you in return a little nugget from marx:

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The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas, i.e. the class which is the ruling material force of society, is at the same time its ruling intellectual force. The class which has the means of material production at its disposal, has control at the same time over the means of mental production, so that thereby, generally speaking, the ideas of those who lack the means of mental production are subject to it. The ruling ideas are nothing more than the ideal expression of the dominant material relationships, the dominant material relationships grasped as ideas.
Marx, German Ideology (1845)

so let's say for a second that this is close to accurate in principle. that would mean that your entire "politics" of revolution really is nothing but a snippy inversion of the dominant ideology.

you are a product of a system of social reproduction; you repeat the ways of thinking that underpin the worldview that you think you oppose in the ways in which you oppose it. this leaves you no alternative but to imagine that the problem is that there's been some sort of Betrayal of the Amurican Way by one or another collection of Bad People---recently you've been trying to argue that these Bad People are somehow affiliated with the obama administration, which explains your foray into the tea party farce. whatever, it doesn't matter. you are stuck juxtaposing some imaginary "Real American Political System" with some equally vague existing arrangement, opposing the latter in the name of the former and then proceeding to talk about taking up arms in some kind of equally imaginary revolutionary movement.


you're a gun and a uniform fetish away from militia world, pan.
and what you take for revolution would be-----at the very best-----a kind of beerhall putsch.
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