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Old 05-04-2009, 09:34 AM   #30 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru View Post
And, Pan, I can't believe you'd be willing to take up arms. For what, exactly? This tells me one thing: you believe the American system of government has failed. What do you want in its place? You can borrow from our system in Canada if you would like. Or is that too socialist for you? But, wait....you want to go up against the capitalists it seems. Are you gunning for a socialist revolution?
I do believe our system has failed. As I stated above, I believe the top 5% controlling the vast majority of wealth (some say 75% some say as high as 90%) control the country. They are like the Outer Limits "Do not adjust your television... we control all that you see, hear, read and think."

Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, O Reilly, Cunningham, Coulter, Moore, Olberman, Matthews, Time, National Review.... and so on are all one in the same. The messages may seem different but the reality is that they divide and conquer. Thus the power structure never changes, the political parties will always just trade off like some bad tag team, but the rights of the people and the country as a whole will continue to be looted and destroyed. The politicians can't help themselves, they need to be reelected because they have POWER.

If politicians truly were looking out for the people they governed in this country and around the world, they'd mandate that ALL product brought into the US would have to be made by people making similar wages with similar working conditions and rights. But they don't..... WHY? Give me 1 truly good reason as to why. Well, it would be hard to police. Bullshit. It would be stepping on other countries toes. Bullshit. Sending lead painted dolls, poisoned pet food is ok because we don't want to step on toes? Preaching human rights and then allowing product made in a children's sweatshop or a factory that pays 28 cents a day to its workers is ok? If you are promoting standards for your country and demand those standards be followed by the people, then the product you bring in better be made by those same standards or... well, you lose your manufacturing base, your tax base and you financially free fall. You want to raise taxes on people scared to death that they may lose their job, can barely live for "universal health care" while the countries we have making our product have barely any human rights and no true healthcare system except for the extreme wealthy? You say, "there's no new taxes for that." Really then how is universal healthcare going to be paid for?

I think the vast majority who chair committees probably do so because the party or the puppet masters have pics of them and blackmail them. It becomes clearer every time a Senator or Rep speaks out or goes against the grain and all of a sudden they have a mistress, misspent campaign funds, took congressional payola, or the press just starts to dig into their background and tells us how bad of a person they are.

The top 5% sit back and get whatever they want from government and allow hacks like Limbaugh, Beck and so on talk about how they pay so much in taxes, meanwhile they outsource, close plants, do nothing to keep jobs or figure out how to rebuild a long lasting tax base. Thus, they will continue to pay higher taxes BUT it doesn't matter because they control the wealth. If I have a billion dollars, do you think I'm worried about the price of toilet paper, food, paying for my kids college, my mortgage, tires for my car, gas, utilities, etc? HELL FUCKING NO. But, if I do, I just raise prices and blame taxes, outsource and blame taxes and the American worker and unions for wanting too much and I can't be competitive and so on. I'll keep mine, fuck everyone else.

I don't believe in pure Socialism, nor do I believe in pure Capitalism or Communism. I believe we find factors of each and meld them. There is enough wealth in this world for ALL people to succeed and prosper. There will always be those who take their talents and flush them. That is part of free will and freedom.

I believe in economic justice not just for my country men but for all. But the only way we can have economic justice for all is to drastically change the system here in the states first and to demand that product made outside the states are made with US employment rights and laws. In doing so the other countries people will prosper and take more pride in their work, wealth will be spread out further.

For those beliefs, I would take up arms. But it will never happen. The longer we stay in this world recession, the richer that 5% gets and the more wealth they will ultimately control. The more wealth they control, the more they control what we see, hear, read, get taught and eventually think. Until, we are in a feudal system and believe that the overlord will protect us and the worse our standard of living becomes.
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