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Originally Posted by dippin
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/23/op...r=2&ref=global
so to make things clear:
we know from the memos that the military resisted implementing these torture techniques.
We know from the memos that the CIA agents involved in some of these cases didn't want to implement them, but people all the way back in Virginia and DC ordered them to.
And now we know from someone who was there that they were useless, and that the worst stuff to come out of these torture sessions is still not declassified.
And some people still insist on defending this?
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Yes,
...and...to make things worse, I am going to call Obama and his administration a "biatch", if they don't act in a manner consistent with what they think are the facts and their so called moral compass. There are those willing to do what needs to be done, like Bush, and their are people who live in a theoretical 'la la' land, like I think Obama does.
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Originally Posted by roachboy
paul krugman makes an eloquent case for the pursuit of serious investigations on this issue.
from this morning's ny times:
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We don't need further investigation, we know enough to bring charges. Why make this more complicated than it needs to be. Why can't they make their decision on what we know? Obama has all the documents, we know the victims, no one is going to voluntarily incriminate themselves in an investigation, we know the buck stops with Bush. I suggest they either file formal charges or move on.