Ace,
there is no gray area here, no matter how hard you try.
Legal precedent by American courts have deemed waterboarding torture.
And the CIA surpassed even whatever limits the Bush administration could legally justify.
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Originally Posted by aceventura3
Both. I personally would not call waterboarding torture, you do. There may be things you consider torture that others don't. So there can be different tolerances to what torture is.
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What techniques you have never experienced that you consider or not to be torture are completely irrelevant.
Legal precedent considers waterboarding torture. The state department under Bush considered waterboarding when done by other nations to be torture.
And even the fickle legal justification provided by less than ethical attorneys was surpassed, so even by the lax limits set by the Bush administration that constitutes torture.