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Originally Posted by aceventura3
I will go along with your logic for awhile and assume everything you have written is a given so far.
When does waterboarding become torture?
Is it torture at the same time for every person?
Is the threat of waterboarding torture?
Is describing waterboarding with a threat of it being done to a person torture?
Is being shown a videotape of someone being waterboarded with the threat of it being done to a person torture?
Is doing everything up the point of using water and not actually using the water torture?
Is putting a rag in someone mouth with no intent of waterboarding but when the person thinks they may be waterboarded actually torture?
Is being captured and thinking you may be waterboarded torture?
Pretend you are the AG and I am the Director of the CIA, and I have just asked you for clarification, what do you say?
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Well, considering that everything described in the memos goes far beyond what you are asking, I fail to see the relevance. In fact, the memos themselves outline waterboarding far beyond the extent that even the original ones allowed.
I don't think there is any gray area here that some republicans want to pretend there is.
What we have, from the memos, is waterboarding beyond even what those who were hellbent on authorizing them allowed, sometimes against people who the interrogators themselves thought were being cooperative, but were ordered to torture anyways, by people who were thousands of miles away from the interrogation room.