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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
It doesn't? You don't think that cruelty is a viable part of the range of humanity?
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"Viable"? That means capable of working successfully. Torture cannot succeed in the way those who use it want to succeed; it cannot yield reliable results. So no, it's not viable in any way.
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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
You only want the good to exist. I don't. I need to see the bad to appreciate the good. I need to know that there is evil and bad out there. I get to see examples of it every day.
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I don't know what fortune cookie, yin-yang world you live in, but the rest of us generally struggle to make the world a better place. We wouldn't do that if the universe was magically maintaining some bizarre equilibrium between good and bad. You sound like a comic book villain. "You need me, Batman! Your good can only exist if my evil gives it meaning! HAHAHhahahahahAHAHH!!"
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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
I don't do ANY of those things I listed because the net effect is the same as me shaking my fist in the air. It don't change the song, it don't change the dance.
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Don't pretend like you're not involved. Your and my tax dollars go to fund a corrupt intelligence community that kidnaps, holds without trial, and tortures. You and every other person that passively accepts or even condones torture are partially responsible.
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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
People have been killing, maiming, and torturing each other since they learned how to pick up rocks and bash in skulls. It will continue after the dust of my bones blow into the winds.
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You're not arguing for your statement. You didn't say "I can't do shit about it", you said "I'm fine with torture". Defend the latter statement.
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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
So while you sit and be all aghast and abhorred by it all, I'll sit and enjoy my life as it's the one that I was lucky to have the die cast for.
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Ignorance may be bliss, but you're aware of what's happening. You're not ignorant of torture or rendition. You are in a position to cast at least some judgment on it, and your verdict is that you're fine with it. That position is indefensible.