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No, simply saying that people who use 'cause are, regardless of their theories of the origins of the universe.
Knife_Missle, I simply need to find one crazy ass lunatic who uses 'cause and sticks his dick in turtles to prove my point. Your argument is that this fellow's belief in creationism contributed to his actions, which holds the exact same amount of water that my turtle-raping theory does. My challenge is to find a turtle-raper who uses the contraction, and, by the same logic you're using, it proves my point. I, on the other hand, can point to literally millions of creationists who never murdered anyone or committed suicide as pretty much proof positive that your argument has a logical fallacy large enough to drive a brown dwarf through (the celestial body or Tia Tequila, your choice - both are equally dense). So unless William Jennings Bryant got up to some shenanigans that didn't make the history books, I hope you realize that what you're saying makes no sense in the real world.
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I was merely asserting in my last post that your "crazy ass lunatic who uses 'cause and sticks his dick in turtles" isn't me... yet... and so your claim isn't quite as strong as mine.
Not that my claim is that creationists are murderous assholes. That was a clear fallacy that I wanted to avoid. That's why I mentioned that he was not theologically motivated...
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Crazy people do crazy things all the time. Some of them do those things in the name of religion - suicide bombers, Crusaders, etc. That's because crazy people use excuses to justify the unjustifiable. That doesn't seem to be the case here, but this is only noteworthy because we've got a handydandy Youtube video that this guy left behind. I am SURE that I can find an equally hefty African American man in his early twenties preaching the Word of God (as he sees it) with a minimal amount of Youtube effort that hasn't killed himself. Hell, I can probably find two. And when I do, you argument crumbles like a piece of shit left in the sun too long. Let me know if you want me to make the effort.
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Trust me when I tell you that I understand that this could have been a crazy atheist on a murderous rampage and I thank God that it wasn't 'cause I know that religious kooks would have claimed that it demonstrated the lack of morality of all atheists. I rue the day...
It's hard to tell what you're reacting to in particular 'cause you didn't quote any context. I certainly haven't said that Creationism causes murders. I have accused Creationists of being crazy but that doesn't appear to be what you're reacting to. Find that video of that other Creationist and I'll show you another adherent to a foolish desire!
My point is that this is a dramatic example of how Creationists don't have a monopoly on morality. I understand that that's obvious to most people here at the TFP but I assure you that there are plenty of Creationists that believe this wholeheartedly. In fact, Anthony himself is an example of this.
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...because he's as crazy as a Creationist?
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And there you brandish one of your favorite axes to grind.
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You make it sound unsavory...
By the way, I find it interesting that you edited out the context that makes this clearly a joke...
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You pretty much think that any one who believes in any thing supernatural, is pretty much crazy, don't you?
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In that regard, yes!
In more detail, that word doesn't even make any sense... but that's a topic for another thread!