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Originally Posted by The_Jazz
The thing is that his rantings on Youtube are in no way different than any of the nonsense you yourself spout off here. Or any of the nonsense that I spout, for that matter. The internet, along with the porn-around-every-corner aspect, is the home of the disgruntled. This guy probably didn't type so good. You and I do have that particular skill, so we limit our interactions to the written word, and we can expound on anything that strikes our fancy. And if I've learned anything here, it's that being in opposition is a lot more interesting than following the crowd.
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His rantings aren't "in
no way different" (emphasis is mine) from yours and mine. Would you ever say "I know I'm right, it's as simple as that. You're wrong and you will be wrong no matter what you say..." I would never say that or anything even close to it and that's why our arguments aren't the same type of vacuous rantings as his...
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I'm sure you think that your words are the voice of reason. I'll go so far as to grant that I agree with some of the things you've said. But I think that it's laughable to the point of insulting to imply that the kind of crazy that this guy succumbed to is in any way related to his belief in creationism. I know and respect several folks who are adamant believers in creationism. I disagree with them respectfully, but you can't seem to be bothered to be respectful.
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Obviously I don't respect Creationism in the least. Perhaps I can give more respect to individual Creation
ists but, to my credit, I have not insulted any individuals in this forum. The idea of Creationism is simply stupid and that's why they need to legislate their ideas into classrooms rather than gain scientific consensus the honest way. Now
that's insulting... After all, if Evolution overcame scientific, theological and aesthetic opposition, why can't they? Do they have God on their side or what?
Do you support the
UN Defamation of Religions resolution? This alone would make a decent thread topic. I contend that it's individuals who have rights and not ideas...
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Or I could just say that people who use the contraction 'cause are all turtle-rapers and make exactly as much sense as you.
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In all fairness to me, you'd have to demonstrate that I rape turtles for that to make
as much sense as me...
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Originally Posted by FuglyStick
If I claim to be a liberal, but support conservative policy and reject liberal policy, does that mean I'm still a liberal because I say I am and believe I am? Sorry, Will, your attempts to dump this guy's problems on Christianity are horribly misdirected.
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If the definition of a liberal was someone who believes themselves to be liberal then yes, you would be...
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Originally Posted by Cynosure
Think about it. Why would a person who believes in God and the afterlife (including eternal damnation), commit murder as one of his last acts on this world, and then immediately afterward commit suicide? Especially if that person is a self-proclaimed Christian who is knowledgeable about the Gospels?
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...because he's as crazy as a Creationist?
Wocka Wocka Wocka!
I have no idea why he did this considering what he professed. Maybe he understood himself to be saved regardless of what else he'd do. Maybe he felt he was doing the Lord's work. The God of the Old Testament has asked people to kill before so that whole "Thou shalt not kill" crap is obviously not
strictly true. Maybe he believed in the "Thou shalt not commit murder" interpretation and felt spiritually justified in what he was doing. After all, how many Christians support capital punishment?
The point is that just because someone doesn't follow the Bible as you understand it doesn't mean they're not Christian, according to many sects of the faith. Even describing them as "failed" Christians is a bit of a stretch. I mean, we're all sinners aren't we? Is there a bar that you set for success and failure? I've never head of such a thing from any orthodoxy...