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Old 04-14-2009, 02:58 PM   #195 (permalink)
pan6467
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This is what baffles me, moderates can go to protests they believe in, sponsored by MoveOn, Center for American Progress, America Coming Together and so on and get all kinds of love from the networks and other press while they stroke those people's egos by telling them how wise and up to date and informed they are...... but have those same people go to these Tea Parties because they believe in them and all of a sudden these people are being duped and that they are sheep and have no idea what they are doing and are so out of touch with reality.

Seems to me the liberal press are trying very hard to make these appear as evil rallies for the sore losing Neo-Cons and so on. Much the same way the Right tries to keep people out of the protests and demonstrations the Left sponsors.

I think maybe the press and people on both sides need to shut the fuck up with veiled attacks on people's intelligence and how they feel and let a person wanting to attend a demonstration because that person believes in the demonstrations cause, attend. People can make up their own minds, people can decide what they want to believe in, they do not need egos stroked or bashed by outside forces (namely the media and extremists) for their beliefs. It's a pathetic grasp at control and keeping power when you have to resort to such ways so that an opposing view cannot be heard or taken seriously. Let the opposing view speak for itself, let the people decide.... FUCK THE MEDIA.

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Originally Posted by Derwood View Post
So, pan, you think that 50.1% of a state's populace should be allowed to make decisions on behalf of the entire state?
I believe in state's rights, so yeah. Voters in Ohio voted for a smoking ban... I'm not happy, I think it's wrong, but the people have spoken and if I don't like it enough I can move to a state that allows smoking. Plain and simple.

I also am a believer that state's rights should be limited to state business and communities have rights within their own area.

I don't believe the Federal government has the right to dictate or someone has the right to threaten federal lawsuit because a judge put up the 10 commandments in his court or a town that is vastly Christian wants to have a Christmas parade and can't because they are scared of the lawsuits that may come.

If the judge makes his judgments based on the Bible and not the laws of the land then you have a case. If a city decides to ban any other religions church/synagogue/temple from being built or people of a differing faith to worship... then there maybe a case. Otherwise, let the will of the people decide what is best for their community or state. So long as it does not violate US Constitutional rights.... it's not a Federal problem.

Remember first and foremost in order to be a state your constitution had to be accepted and the US Constitutional became the guideline. So don't give me extremes like Georgia will reenact slavery, Texas will allow rape, Alabama will make Christianity the state religion.... those extremes even if voted by the people would never become state laws.... and if they did, then and only then should the Federal government be allowed to step in.
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