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Originally Posted by cybermike
Man, I missed all the good stuff!
In response to Ratbastd, I'm not a christian so your claim that it's a defensive reaction to distance one's own religion isn't true, at least in my case.
I understand and consider a christian to be someone that not only believes but obeys the teachings of Jesus and as many of the old testament laws to the best of their abilities. This includes not killing people, not coveting the woman you can't have, and not letting unwholesome words come out of your mouth. To me, This man failed to follow some of the bibles basic teachings and whatever you want to call him, he's not going to heaven.
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Yeah, I'm glad to see some lively discussion going on! My threads often end up being boring duds...
I find it funny that so many
Christians put so much emphasis on the
Old Testament, seeing's how it predates the
Good News. Also, the New Testament has a distinctly different feel from the petty and fragile ego exhibited by Yahweh in the Torah.
There are more passages in the Old Testament against eating pork than there is against homosexuality yet that's what fundamentalists fixate themselves on...
I do not enjoy engaging in semantic arguments which is why I was trying very hard to use the same definition of Christianity used by the people on this forum: Orthodox Protestantism, the most popular sect of Christianity in the USA, by far. Obviously, we have a wide range of people here, many of whom practice an unorthodox version of Christianity but I figured it was a good start...
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
Following the teachings of Christ while believing in him is important to being a Christian. Ignoring the teachings of Christ would call into question your being a good Christian. (I think this man was a failed Christian because he clearly didn't follow Christ's teachings.)
Simply believing in him isn't enough. This would suggest Muslims are also Christians.
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Muslims don't accept Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior. Like the Jews, they just think he was some dude...
Anthony accepted this and is a Christian by American creationist standards...
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Originally Posted by The_Jazz
Here's something we can all agree on: religion had little to do with the fact that this guy was a selfish and cowardly motherfucker.
You guys are trying to slap the wrong label on something. Before he did this, "Christian" or "nutjob" or "that guy over there" might (or might not) have been appropriate. Since we're talking about a murder/suicide, those label are completely irrelevant to the conversation.
Christian or not, obnoxious or not, quiet or loud, this guy didn't die by the same rules he wanted others to live by.
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That's why I thought this was interesting enough to post here. The sheer irony of this guy calling atheists "non-human" and "immoral" was worth pointing out. Everyone here thinks this guy is insane after having killed somebody but I assure you that there are plenty of people on YouTube who thought his rantings were the voice of reason. To many people, this was not the act of a raving lunatic and I find
that disturbing...
Creationists often say that non-belief in their interpretation of the Bible will lead society to immorality and evil. That is to say, creationists often say what Anthony himself was saying in this video. Some people are only now calling him crazy 'cause he killed someone. Did it have to go that far? Wasn't it obvious his belief in creation was crazy to begin with?
Now, it doesn't look like he killed this poor girl for theological reasons. However, I don't think his insanity and his creationism were unrelated and I urge people who subscribe to this nonsense to carefully consider why they believe in that junk...