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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
Only if you consider the appropriated versions, of which there are many.
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I don't understand the position you are arguing from. I'm not claiming he's a good representative of the faith (I don't think anyone is), but consider the following scriptural/logical arguement:
1. Murder in the new testament is consistently grouped with lesser sins.
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Originally Posted by Mathew 5:21-22
You have heard that it was said to the ancients, "You shall not murder," and that whoever does commit murder shall be liable to judgment. But I say to you, anyone who is angry with his brother shall be liable to judgment, and whoever says to his brother, "Raqa!" shall be liable to the Sanhedrin, and whoever says, "You fool!" shall be liable to the fire of Gehenna.
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Originally Posted by John 3:15
Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
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Originally Posted by Galations 5:21
Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
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If you believe the above, and are stating definitively that a murderer is not a Christian, what about someone who is angry with or hates their brother, or is drunk, or envies someone? Are these people also definitely not Christians?
2. Are prison ministries just wasting their time? Do the murderers being preached to know that they can't go to heaven?