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Originally Posted by roachboy
so the question so *why* this program would be continued is strange to me--which is why i was putting up questions about possible relations between it and the changes that the obama administration is starting to attempt in military strategic orientation, which would result in---FINALLY--a dismantling of the national security state if they were taken far enough. within that, there's another question about trade-offs and intentions---because it's a whole lot clearer what's being moved away from than it is what's being moved into.
you can't blame a boy for wondering about this.
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Olbermann seems to be alleging it's because Obama is worried that he won't be able to count on the intelligent community if he doesn't acquiesce to their "needs" (wants), he is allowing them to continue to run around without any boundaries. This does make sense, considering how Obama has been treating the right (attempting concessions that the right didn't even ask for by putting tax breaks in the bailout etc.). I almost hate to say it, but if Olbermann is right he's acting too much like the proverbial codependent mother, and reinforcing the "republican = father" and "democrat = mother" stereotypes. I was hoping Obama would be a strong liberal, but maybe liberals don't know what to do with strong leaders. We need to resurrect Andrew Jackson's crazy ass.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
if i have you right on this, you'd not kill for your rights, but you'd die for your rights. You'd do this because you place a higher value on human life, but if you'd not defend your rights, are you not placing a lesser value on your own life?
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No, it's about responsibility. I take responsibility for my own life. If I fuck up, it's all on me. If I succeed, it's all on me. If I choose to fight and die for something I hold important, that's totally my call, but killing someone else is removing another person's right to choose what to do with his or her life and I refuse to take that kind of responsibility for that other person regardless of their decisions. If they want to die, that's their right, but I won't be the one that kills them.
If everyone adopted this philosophy, war would be something you read about in old books.