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Old 04-09-2009, 10:40 AM   #29 (permalink)
Willravel
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McCain and Bush's economic policies were failed trickle down overtures that in short term worked for Reagan but long term cannot work and would only continue the path to destruction. Obama's on the same path.
I don't think it's a good idea to get into an economic debate in a thread about warrantless wiretaps. All I was saying is that we need a unifying issue, and that isn't present at these tea parties. They are conservative.

Let me put it this way, knowing where I stand on a lot of issues, do you think I'd be comfortable with the message at a tea party?
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I'll have conservative friends there that are anti-abortion, pro capital punishment and so on... doesn't mean I support those views. Right now government is corrupt, taxes are out of control as is spending... Obama sees a problem he throws money at it and changes nothing... but he expected the car companies to change policy but he won't change policies and make them less accessible to middle America.
I don't want this to turn into an "Obama is wrong on this therefore he's wrong on everything" thread. I don't exactly agree with the bail-outs, but that convo might be served better elsewhere.
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Then the millions that were out need to speak out, not just shake their head after that one day and say, "aw well".
That protest was our trump card, our final attack on the death star. It was the culmination of some of the most incredible grass-roots movements of our time. And none of us stopped fighting after February 15th, we kept going, but most of us had jobs and school which meant that spending all day downtown simply wasn't viable. We went back to our local protests and grassroots media, but the lack of success with the protest was a huge defeat.
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What do you suggest?
At this point, I can't really think of anything that fits between "active, but useless" and "illegal". You said above:
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If you are livid do something about it instead of just saying "I'm livid."
I'd love to, but I'm out of ideas. I refuse to break the law, but I don't want to waste my time on a strategy that stands no chance of success.
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