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Originally Posted by Willravel
Most of the people at the rally were former Bush supporters and people that voted for McCain. If you supported either of these men for their economic policy, you're not a fiscal conservative. You're not even a fiscal liberal. But that's not the point.
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McCain and Bush's economic policies were failed trickle down overtures that in short term worked for Reagan but long term cannot work and would only continue the path to destruction. Obama's on the same path.
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Tea parties will be impotent as long as they're ideology rallies. You need a singular goal, something to be shared with your brothers and sisters on the left, like ending wiretapping. We liberals simply aren't going to get on board with neoliberalism because we've seen that it's all talk when neoliberals get into office. Lower taxes on the rich and spend tons on the military is just as much micromanaging as any social program a liberal might put in place.
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I'll have conservative friends there that are anti-abortion, pro capital punishment and so on... doesn't mean I support those views. Right now government is corrupt, taxes are out of control as is spending... Obama sees a problem he throws money at it and changes nothing... but he expected the car companies to change policy but he won't change policies and make them less accessible to middle America.
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We did it to demonstrate a united voice against the war, but the fact is that media outlets underestimated the numbers of protesters by leaps and bounds. I was in San Francisco, and there had to be something like 350,000 protesters on the street. Most media outlets said there were 50,000. There were over a million people on the streets in NYC, and the newspapers and media said something like 250,000. If people knew just how big the protests were, the odds of them taking the movement seriously might have had a bigger affect. All in all there were likely 10s of millions of people around the planet and several million in the US protesting that day, trying desperately to change the course we were on.
It did nothing.
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Then the millions that were out need to speak out, not just shake their head after that one day and say, "aw well".
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There's no reason? What about free speech zones?
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What about them? If enough people feel the way you do about a certain issue and you organize, get word out and demonstrate government will have no choice but to listen.
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Fighting smart means no more bullshit protests that don't stand a chance of success. Fighting smart means employing methods that have succeeded in the past and stand a reasonable chance of succeeding now.
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What do you suggest?
Personally, I think after the tea parties people should form convoys to Washington, picking up people in other cities along the way. San Fran to St.Louis to DC and so on. I'd use vacation days, sick days to join the convoy and to help organize this areas.
To those fearful they wouldn't have jobs to return to because the work they'd miss, look at it this way, if we don't do it now while we have the chance, then the job you have may not be there much longer anyway and the luxuries and lifestyle you have now may not exist in a year or 2 and then it maybe too late to do anything.