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Old 04-02-2009, 09:27 AM   #22 (permalink)
Xerxys
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Originally Posted by flstf View Post
Pot costs almost nothing to grow. Polititians and anyone who works for the government are feeding at the public trough and deserve at least as much scrutiny as the poor. Plus they are most likely in a position to do far more monetary damage than a poor food stamp recipient. This is all about saving money isn't it?
Hadn't understood your point about the politicians thing. Thanks for clarifying. But I wonder though, seeing as pot is illegal, why spend your free time to grow it? Isn't it a drug? Disregard the debates of the effects of pot, cigarettes and other drugs/non drugs there are out there. Shouldn't you be looking for a job?

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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru View Post
First, the food stamps are paid for by the state, not you. Second, it's not like the values set by welfare payouts consider a "drug money" budget. Drug users aren't taking more than their share to pay for drugs. They're using what little they have given to them to eek out a bit of drugs based on either a habit, an addiction, or a little something to help them get through what is likely to be a miserable existence.

This program will spend more money on welfare to do drug testing (more tax dollars). If this means "savings" on welfare by cutting off funding, do you think the savings will also force all of those drug users to get cleaned up and back on welfare, or do you think they'll resort to other means? If this means drug programs will have increased use, this might also mean more tax dollars. Are you okay with that?
Food stamps are paid for by You and I indirectly. You and I pay taxes, don't we? I do. And no Baraka. I have lived with a druggie. He was so hopeless he used every means necessary to get what he wants. The food stamp system was easy money for him. He could trade the food for cash anytime. He would go hungry if not for just a fix. If you are living a 'miserable existence' you need to get yourself out of that funk. If it's an illness then you need to seek professional help. Drugs are not the answer.

This program will weed out the people who don't deserve the food stamps. I'm all for some sort of rollover plan to spend what wasn't spent last year on welfare the next year. To finance both the testing and the aid itself. I'm all against those who don't do everything they can to be independent.
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