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Originally Posted by dippin
Im done discussing this with you, Pan. But as a last statement, even if you went back to a 1945 tax base, or a 67-70 tax base, you'd still be in a deficit with the current spending on military, healthcare and pensions.
Personally, I'd cut the military budget deeply, change to a more efficient single payer healthcare system, keep pensions as they are and increase taxes as necessary.
People who want to keep it all up with tax cuts need to live in a world of fantasy where outrage makes up for numbers. You can't spend 16-18% of GDP on military, healthcare, pensions and expect to pay that or less in taxes. It seems like you will never get that, so Ill let that be.
Ps: The tax burden and tax in general have been in a decade long decline. I fail to see how that will spark a revolution.
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The taxes can't be cut because there is no true tax base. I think you are trying to read into something I am not saying.
I am saying that what government needs to do is increase tariffs to protect our industry for a limited time so that we can rebuild a manufacturing sector that will provide better jobs and rebuild the tax base. This is the only way you will increase the tax base to a sustainable level.
You cut the pork spending streamline government to a point where, yes the programs are out there but they aren't bogged down with paperwork, 15 people who have to approve the paperwork, and if it isn't approved it has to start all over. Because the way the system is small businesses cannot afford to apply for small business loans. People who need help with the programs in place to help them with healthcare are bogged down with so much paperwork they have no idea how to get it.
Cutting military spending in the middle of a war is pretty stupid and going to get a lot of people killed.
You want to tax people then streamline taxes. Base taxes on income, get rid of loopholes, hidden taxes and say you make 50,000 you pay this amount, not taxes hidden anywhere else. Once people see how much money truly goes to taxes, then show us where every cent is spent.
Mandate Congress have the townhalls I discussed that force them to explain what is going on, why they are voting how they vote and and how it helps their constituency. If a Congressman doesn't do this he is impeached. Plain and simple.See how fast pork spending and bullshit gets taken out of bills.