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Old 03-28-2009, 09:21 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by KnifeMissile View Post
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There isn't necessarily a dichotomy between religion and science. It depends on the religion. I can engineer a religion that doesn't interfere with science. Hell, if I were to do some research, perhaps I can find one!

Catholicism may come close. For example, they are officially agnostic over the issue of evolution. Past and present popes have said that it is a scientific fact that people should appreciate. However, they haven't made it a part of their doctrine so you're not required to accept it to be catholic. While it seems obvious that a religion needn't attach itself to scientific findings, this hasn't always been true. That's why they're taking this stance now; they've learned from their past mistakes. If your religion makes scientific claims then science can prove your religion wrong!

This is, of course, my point. Religion needn't interfere with science but if your religion makes scientifically testable claims, then the two will conflict! This is the case with Creationism, a very particular brand of one of the Abrahamic religions. In North America, this will be fundamentalist Christianity...


On the contrary! I'd say more but I suspect you may be confused with what is meant by the term "creationist." At the very least, creationism is the very antithesis of science...


Where do I start?

Creationists are using the "modern literal concept of year" so we can use that term to show their error. Years as a measurement of time is not meaningless to scientists. Because we understand spacetime as well as we do, we can make sense of time and space regardless of the reference frames at play. Finally, creationism says a lot more than that there was merely a beginning, hence the conflict...

It's actually rather difficult to be a creationist and a scientist. You'd have to study a field of science far removed from the claims of creationism, like material science or something...
It is not difficult at all to be a scientist and a creationist - there are many respected people out there with PhDs and similar degrees that have done/are doing important work in all fields of science and believe in a young earth. All of creation speaks to God's handiwork and is a testament to to him. Seeing wonders like the USA's Grand Canyon or the great rift in Africa just to name two are countless examples of the great deluge.
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