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Originally Posted by dippin
Who said anything about being ok?
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Well, what is your solution, to blindly follow Obama and Congress and believe they have your or the majority of people's best interests at hand. That's just naive.
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What I said simply refers to the math of it all. You can't solve math with emotion
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No, but you can take the ideas and work with the people and find ways to make it work instead of just throwing money to the rich and hoping it trickles down.
By the way, there was no new spending in the medical solution I gave just streamlining and forcing the pharms to be accountable and letting them control their patent longer.... why is that not feasible?
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The banks that are failing are failing because they owe more than what they are worth. That is, the assets that they have are worth less than the obligations.
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The banks are failing? Really? I guess that's why PNC was able to take their bailout money and buy a viable bank that was in pretty good shape. I guess back a few years ago government should have done something about leveraged buyouts instead of giving them green lights and turning blind eyes.
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You want them to extend more credit at lower rates? Great, but to do so will require even more money from the tax payer. Whether they are "nice" or "greedy" doesn't matter.
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Bullshit. My Chase card went from 9.9% to 24.9%, never missed a payment always paid more than the minimum and 1 time I was late by 1 day, even called them a week before... too bad so sad. The bailout money should have been enough. Obviously it isn't obviously the banks who are getting TAX MONEY to bail themselves out would still rather kick people while they are down then work with them. So why are we bailing them out? Chase by the way took bail out money and bought WaMu and is not hurting.
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Oh, so you then prefer to let them fail? Great, too, except that this will also require money from the tax payer.
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Really, the banks are failing.... name one today that is hurting. How many executives are making over a million dollars in salary for running their bank into the ground? How much of this "bailout" money is going back to the tax payer?
They don't care if the mom and pop shop down the street go under. They won't help them out, unless mom and pop show that they can make a return to the bank. So where's the banks return to the taxpayer???????
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The problem is not that we think what is being done is "ok,"
The problem is that the solution to this is not to propose mathematical impossibilities and then try to cover up that fact with outrage.
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No the problem is that you are ok with it because you refuse to try to find solutions and come up with tired old excuses not to even try.
You can't make the math work to fix healthcare or education but you don't care about the math to bail out the banks. You demand the auto industry do X, Y and Z and jump through hoops to get money while you just gave money to banks and AIG without questioning where it was going. You're getting ready to raise the deficit and spend like drunken sailors but if the taxpayers stand up and say, "wait, we don't want that, and question you. You tell them that their ideas and what they want will cost more??????? More than bailing out banks that are using that money to better the tax payer bailing them out, how? More than bailing out AIG who is using that money to better the tax payer bailing them out, how? More than a bridge in Alaska to nowhere, how? More than throwing money at schools as they raise tuition, how?
POWER TO THE PEOPLE enough of the hypocrisy and bullshit.