Originally Posted by aceventura3

Yes. At least for me it is, I don't get your point at all. I understand being responsible for initiating an action, and I understand that if things go bad still being responsible for initiating the action and being responsible for things going bad. But, if things go well, you accomplish what you wanted to accomplish - I would call that a success.

So, if in the course of accomplishing a goal, I create a mess - and then I clean that mess up allowing me to accomplish my goal, I would consider cleaning the mess up a success. And I would call accomplishing my goal a success.

I generally divide large goals into smaller pieces, pieces necessary for the large goal. I measure success by accomplishment of those smaller pieces - or "missions".

Perhaps, we just don't communicate or see things in the same way.