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Originally Posted by Derwood
The surge was only necessary because the original mission and it's aftermath were such a clusterfuck
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The old butterfly effect argument. Sure, how about this -the surge was necessary because Saddam was not breast fed, leading to him becoming a tyrant.
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Originally Posted by biznatch
Sorry, Ace, but to me this is what happens.
WW2: D-Day, troops go in, many die, but still kick ass. A bit later, they defeat the Third fucking Reich.
GWOT(Iraq): troops go in, a few die, kick some Sadaam statue ass. A bit later, many years of a few deaths every day, thousands of civilians and soldiers killed.
If your "mission" was: let's start a "Civil War", then OK. Otherwise, no, nothing was "Accomplished."
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Unfortunately wars are not faught in a vacuum. In war there are normally two sides - each with people formulating strategies to win and adjusting to what the opponent does. A strategy can work, or work until the other side adapts with a better strategy of their own.
It takes a bit of arrogance to think one side can formulate a perfect strategy that can be executed perfectly from beginning to end. If your expectation of our military is based on that level of arrogance your perception will always be one of a focus on temporary failures.