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The Faba · 03-23-2009, 03:27 PM

I gather from your posts that nobody in this thread has ever watched this show, knows how these actors interact with each other, or knows the basic premise of this program. I watch this show a lot. Every chance I get, as a matter of fact - and the reason I do is that it is irreverent, condescending, and bullish. Those three words are likely what was used to pitch the show to the executives and what these people say to themselves every day before taping.

It, like MANY shows on Fox News, is NOT a serious news reporting program. Fox is filled with shows like: The O'Reilly Factor, Hannity's America (I hate him so much!), Hannity and Combes, RedEye, and many others. These are opinion pieces - NOt news programs. So I tend to disregard people who claim that Fox is a Faux News channel when they cite these shows as evidence. The actual news on Fox takes place in the middle of the day and is very balanced, whereas the opinion programming is not balanced at all. (logic being that, if you don't watch this 'faux' news network enough to realize that half of it's shows are not news, then go off and condescendingly remark that anyone who watches Fox is, by default, an ignorant-redneck-conservative-hick, you are just mindlessly following others who have fallen prey to the same mistake you are making. All of this means that you are ill-educated on the subject and unfit to hold a viable debate on the objectivity of Fox's actual news programs.) In fact the biased comments on this show that are in the opening post are the EXACT kind of thing that is incorrectly protested. (In short, they are biased, insulting, and make assumptions based on a 4 minute clip. These assumptions include Greg's facial postures made during phrases where his face was not even pictured.)

Now that that is out of the way... The show is nothing but satire. Repeated: NOTHING besides satire. If you watched it, you would know. I mean, for God's sake - The man draws some stupid snippet of the days news on a piece of computer paper EVERY SHOW! (And it usually involves a unicorn...) This whole segment stems from the show poking fun at Canadians for deciding to jump out of fighting for one year. It may seem as especially hateful to those who have only seen this one clip, but this is how they treat every story they cover.

So... what I have gathered from this thread is that you (Jay) are upset because this show that you never watch is making fun of the Canadian military for doing something that a military really should never do (ie. run out of resources) and poking fun at a few ethnic stereotypes of Canadians while doing so. Because you are upset at this show you know nothing about, but feel that your countrymen and country have been specifically targeted for an extreme verbal lashing by them, you make hasty and emotional comments and cite lines from Wikipedia (I presonally find it hilarious that you imply that one cannot trust Fox News - but then cite Wikipedia articles that were probably edited by angry Canadians after this all came out)

Also, the comment that now is the time to invade Canada is quite obviously satire. I don't see how you could actually be concerned that one lone actor (Who actually simply reads the teleprompter - yes, Greg's lines are mainly scripted, everyone else makes up their lines) would try to incite a war between the US and Canada. I think that Canada's reaction to this whole mess has vindicated his comment on Canada being a ridiculous country.

In short - I personally, am grateful for Canada's contribution to the military efforts in Afghanistan. I would not wish harm to any of the Canadian or US military personal overseas. I do not think less of Canadian soldiers because there are less of them than there are US soldiers. However, your views about Fox News are incorrect and your views about the show RedEye are skewed by 4 minute news clips. Yes, it is horrible that four Canadians died fighting for their country. I would not wish that on any soldier.

However, to actually believe that the words in that show are anything more than shock humor and stereotypical comments is ignorant. And, as you said in your opening post, you have people who talk about things they don't know.

My question to you is this: If you are so upset about this segment, how did you feel about Steven Colbert's similar comment in Spring 2006(?) when he said that there would be many more jobs opening up because soldiers were getting killed overseas? Where was the outrage then? Especially considering that RedEye wasn't making fun of dead soldiers... Or does your outrage only pertain to Canadian troops, not for life in general? I'm not looking for a response, I just want you to consider that question yourself.

03-23-2009, 03:27 PM	#23 (permalink)
The Faba Crazy	I gather from your posts that nobody in this thread has ever watched this show, knows how these actors interact with each other, or knows the basic premise of this program. I watch this show a lot. Every chance I get, as a matter of fact - and the reason I do is that it is irreverent, condescending, and bullish. Those three words are likely what was used to pitch the show to the executives and what these people say to themselves every day before taping. It, like MANY shows on Fox News, is NOT a serious news reporting program. Fox is filled with shows like: The O'Reilly Factor, Hannity's America (I hate him so much!), Hannity and Combes, RedEye, and many others. These are opinion pieces - NOt news programs. So I tend to disregard people who claim that Fox is a Faux News channel when they cite these shows as evidence. The actual news on Fox takes place in the middle of the day and is very balanced, whereas the opinion programming is not balanced at all. (logic being that, if you don't watch this 'faux' news network enough to realize that half of it's shows are not news, then go off and condescendingly remark that anyone who watches Fox is, by default, an ignorant-redneck-conservative-hick, you are just mindlessly following others who have fallen prey to the same mistake you are making. All of this means that you are ill-educated on the subject and unfit to hold a viable debate on the objectivity of Fox's actual news programs.) In fact the biased comments on this show that are in the opening post are the EXACT kind of thing that is incorrectly protested. (In short, they are biased, insulting, and make assumptions based on a 4 minute clip. These assumptions include Greg's facial postures made during phrases where his face was not even pictured.) Now that that is out of the way... The show is nothing but satire. Repeated: NOTHING besides satire. If you watched it, you would know. I mean, for God's sake - The man draws some stupid snippet of the days news on a piece of computer paper EVERY SHOW! (And it usually involves a unicorn...) This whole segment stems from the show poking fun at Canadians for deciding to jump out of fighting for one year. It may seem as especially hateful to those who have only seen this one clip, but this is how they treat every story they cover. So... what I have gathered from this thread is that you (Jay) are upset because this show that you never watch is making fun of the Canadian military for doing something that a military really should never do (ie. run out of resources) and poking fun at a few ethnic stereotypes of Canadians while doing so. Because you are upset at this show you know nothing about, but feel that your countrymen and country have been specifically targeted for an extreme verbal lashing by them, you make hasty and emotional comments and cite lines from Wikipedia (I presonally find it hilarious that you imply that one cannot trust Fox News - but then cite Wikipedia articles that were probably edited by angry Canadians after this all came out) Also, the comment that now is the time to invade Canada is quite obviously satire. I don't see how you could actually be concerned that one lone actor (Who actually simply reads the teleprompter - yes, Greg's lines are mainly scripted, everyone else makes up their lines) would try to incite a war between the US and Canada. I think that Canada's reaction to this whole mess has vindicated his comment on Canada being a ridiculous country. In short - I personally, am grateful for Canada's contribution to the military efforts in Afghanistan. I would not wish harm to any of the Canadian or US military personal overseas. I do not think less of Canadian soldiers because there are less of them than there are US soldiers. However, your views about Fox News are incorrect and your views about the show RedEye are skewed by 4 minute news clips. Yes, it is horrible that four Canadians died fighting for their country. I would not wish that on any soldier. However, to actually believe that the words in that show are anything more than shock humor and stereotypical comments is ignorant. And, as you said in your opening post, you have people who talk about things they don't know. My question to you is this: If you are so upset about this segment, how did you feel about Steven Colbert's similar comment in Spring 2006(?) when he said that there would be many more jobs opening up because soldiers were getting killed overseas? Where was the outrage then? Especially considering that RedEye wasn't making fun of dead soldiers... Or does your outrage only pertain to Canadian troops, not for life in general? I'm not looking for a response, I just want you to consider that question yourself.