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Old 03-23-2009, 10:58 AM   #18 (permalink)
FoolThemAll
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Originally Posted by pan6467 View Post
I have worked for companies that would fire employees for even talking about a union. While illegal it was then on the employee to prove that was the reason and as most states have gone to "right to work" the employer could say they fired the employee for any other reason and get away with it.
Admittedly, this is one of the issues on which I am most extreme, but...

I don't understand why this shouldn't be legal. Why shouldn't a business owner be able to decide that he doesn't want a union involved with his business? Why shouldn't he be able to prefer those employees ambivalent or hostile to union representation?

It'll probably come down to fundamental value disagreements on how to prioritize property rights and employment rights - the latter of which I don't hold existent - so this might be a pointless discussion right from the start... but as common and accepted as it is, it's just completely foreign to me that we should bar a business owner from this level of self-autonomy.

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I don't see the need for 50% of workers to approve a union. If 3 workers out of 1000 want to form a union, let them. The company is free to negotiate with them or not as it sees fit.
Well, that doesn't sound so bad to me. So long as there's no legal requirement to interact with the union in any way.
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