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Originally Posted by filtherton
So you think, like, 6 weeks is enough time to turn around decades of economic momentum?
I understand you don't like paying the salaries of rich failures. Nobody does. What does that have to do with the likelihood that Obama's stimulus plan will have a net positive impact on the economy?
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What plan $13/week???? A pork loaded bill that shows no true vision but to make some companies richer?
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I could see this being the case if Obama was using Bush as an excuse to not do anything. I don't see the problem in pointing out that the last guy might have played a role, or that the people who subscribe to the same failed economic philosophies as the last guy haven't realized that those economic philosophies have failed.
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"I promise to veto pork if it comes across my desk."
"Ooo well that was Bush's agenda, I'll do it next year."
"I Promise to change the way we do business make it more open to the people to see."
"Read this bill in 48 hours, have no debate and don't release it to the public until after the vote."
"I'm going to raise taxes on tobacco until they are on the black market and/or people quit, thus nullifying that tax increase revenue and losing money because the revenue we do get from tobacco dried up, thus we'll have to tax coffee, soda, fast food anything we , the government deem unhealthy for you uneducated slobs trying to enjoy life."
"Don't smoke...... but we need you to to bail out the rich."
Talk about hypocrisy.
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Despite however you want to classify "true leaders" (I'm continually impressed by the passion you commit to things which are completely arbitrary, and I mean that moderately as a compliment) true leaders lead. Effective leaders get shit done. Right now Obama is getting shit done. Right now Obama is leading most of the nation-- the rest of the nation seems to be being led by either Ron Paul or Rush Limbaugh (or Ramtha). Pick your poison, I guess.
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Really, what has he gotten done? Truly done to better this nation?
What is his plan? How many more billions do we have to give the rich and how much farther does the Dow need to collapse? How much farther is he going to go down a road that isn't working?
Great leaders surround themselves with great people, he hasn't.
Great leaders have true plans and ideas how to better the future. He doesn't.
Great leaders are open to debate and ridicule of the plans and ideas because they may see things they hadn't and make compromises (because great leaders know sometimes compromise works and is best for all) or they have great belief that what they are doing is the best plan and they can shoot down ridicule by proving it and being firm in belief. I don't see any of this from him or the Dem leadership in Congress. They try to scare people in their own party into silence, they want to keep going down a road that has been leading us to ruin and not change course.
Most of all great leaders don't lie, they inspire by stating the truths and as bad as the outlook may be they inspire hope and encourage all (even those who don't agree with them). He doesn't.
I am not led by Limbaugh, Ron Paul or anyone else, I actually think for myself. One very interesting thing I have found tho, is by not having a TV and not watching news, getting it from newspapers, the radio, internet and the like, I am not as liberal as I once was, I think more for myself and pay attention more. I am able to listen to friend's opinions more and have more respect for them, but am less persuaded by things (opinions) I know are wrong.
And to keep this mantra "we have been headed down this road for 30+ years", then let's look who was in power then... hmmm the Dems. (Personally, I believe it was more Reaganomics than anything else in government).
30+ years would also be when the Boomers started taking power also, but we won't go there right now.
These are very scary times and they are getting worse on a daily basis. He doesn't have the benefit of time to try things and see how they work, he better find ways that work immediately or we are just seeing the beginning of a very fast decline in life as we know it.