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Old 02-20-2009, 02:46 PM   #129 (permalink)
dksuddeth
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Originally Posted by Strange Famous View Post
If we get back to the original post - this guy could have saved every bit of trouble he is in simply by being meek and keeping his head down. But this fantastic believe that his right to have a gun has some other mystic worth beyond the use he might of made of the gun at that time (which was none, since he hardly needs to protect himself when two police are right there) caused him to act in an offensive and aggressive way and catch a case because of it.
and since nothing he did was against any laws at all, he apparently needed protection FROM those very police who didn't seem to know what the laws were.
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Originally Posted by Strange Famous View Post
False, you do not have the right to determine what your rights are or are not. It is not your place or the place of any individual.

You may have a thing called a constitution, and the common law, but the fact is that the rights affording to the people of any land are decided by the state and enforced by the state. The state decides what the constitution is and may amend it at any time. They also decide entirely how it should be interpreted and applied.

The police are the armed forces and the agents of the state, it is for the state to determine what your rights are and how the rights they offer you are to be interpretated in every facet and every moment of your life and existence. It is even for the state to decide the rules which govern what may be done with our bodies when we die.

Whatever room there is in the margins is merely a matter of the present and temporary weakness of the state. Of course, in this margin exists all crime and most human misery. True happiness will come when each individual is ruled completely by a compassionate state. Although Huxley couldnt quite make his mind up about it you might call that a brave new world.

As an aside, the disarmement of the people will be a necessary and obvious step taken in this process.
You have obviously forgotten the reason we broke away from your rule and made our own. My rights are natural, mine because i'm alive. They are not granted by the state nor determined by the state what they are. That may be how you and yours like to view them, but fuck the government agent who tries to tell me I don't have a right to free speech or the right to carry a gun on my own property.
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Last edited by dksuddeth; 02-20-2009 at 02:50 PM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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