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Old 02-20-2009, 12:00 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Dragonlich yes I have that wall feeling too
Crime will disappear, there will be nothing to steal. People will stop being lonely, and each for himself, hating others that are "better off". There will be communities where all know each other, so you why steal or do harm to your friends ?
Did you know that in the Maldive islands until 1960 when India established a police post there, there were no thieves ? The concept itself was unknown to the locals.

Also see this :
First contact with Amazon tribe:
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You have church groups, relief agencies, military operators, social scientists, archeologist's, etc...all dying to get their hands on people like this. Of course, they would get killed trying to do it from the ground, these tribes will out and out kill you as an outsider. The west shows up with radios and food, they look at it hastly and toss it aside, tell you to leave. One kid starts messing with the radio and picks up some music, people in the tribe start to get intrigued. They open up the food, and have a taste, its good and safe. A few weeks later, a landrover shows up with more things, they communicate in archaic means, give them t-shirts with Nike logos and shoes to boot. These tribes are all now big pimpin.
They move into the nearest big city, get shaved up, loose the war paint and get a job cleaning urinals at the local Hilton hotel. Before you know it, the tribe has lost contact with each other and the people individually begin to enter into a deep cycle of poverty, they are unbelievably sad. They get a group of people back together, by shear luck, they take a bus to the border of the inhabited areas, they go and take rental cars as far as they can go. They walk back into their lands, its nothing but smoke, machinery, cane fields and a totally lost culture. They go back, live off the rest of their lives a miserable existence. In Brazil, we talked to Army guys that were born into these kinds of situations, they can talk about this stuff at great length. It so sad to listen to, they were living a fairly decent life. They had death and other issues, but at the very least they were happy, until man showed up and tempted them. The story gets repeated over and over again so many times people have lost count. When I would train in areas like this in S.A., we would run into friendly tribes, I always told them to just hold onto what you have and ignore us. We cannot do anything better for you than you can for yourself. We are just passing through. The only time I'd do anything for them was to help someone who was injured, I had medicine so I gave it to them. Never stayed to see if the antibiotics worked out, but thats about the limit of my engagements. They need to be left alone, its better in the jungle than in the city.
And these:
Face to face with Stone Age man: The Hadzabe tribe of Tanzania | Mail Online
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The plan by the Arabs to buy their land is all the more ironic: the Hadza have no concept of private property, roaming unchecked for thousands of years alongside the animals they hunt.

Nevertheless, the Tanzanian government has repeatedly tried to 'tame' the Hadza, building houses and trying to teach them to grow crops. One attempt to resettle them ended when a dozen perished when they were forced into modern homes.

"They just rotted inside and died,
" said Charles Ngereza, a tribal expert.
Sir Humphry meets the natives - Berwick Today
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FIVE tribesmen from the South Pacific Island of Tanna, one of the most southerly islands of the nation of Vanuatu, visited Britain recently to observe the country's tribes working class, middle class and upper class


Visiting their first British city is an exciting and eye opening experience for the islanders but they are saddened to discover how many homeless people are living on the streets.
How, they ask, is it possible for a city with so much wealth to contain people with no home or family to shelter them?
In a community you never leave your childhood friends behind. You never compete for survival against your friends from school. Friendships go on trough the entire life. How advanced are we, competing for survival against friends! But wait, what is a "friend" today ? In a tribe you helped others knowing you will be helped anytime you need help. That was their life time insurance. That's why tribes worked, and they did not disband at the first famine. See the story of Crazy Horse, I posted it somewhere above.

Look at those stories. Our "civilized" world must be very lonely for them. Look at those people - moved into modern homes they died. Not having the freedom to go anywhere and do what they like killed them. That is real freedom. We are half humans, or we are "anesthetized", and we don't know it, this is the only reason we are able to live in this crazy system.


For me an advanced civilization is measured by the way people behave to each other. Not by how much technology they have. Technology can be good, not in the way we use it today. - to get money.

I am sure people will not be bored in my society, there will be plenty of organizations going on and doing stuff. Even build a space shuttle if you get enough to want it. They will work to see their dream come true, they know they are not working for the good or the comfort of the boss. He is just there to organize stuff, he gets nothing extra. Maybe he gets "fame" if he is good.
There will be no democracy in choosing him. He will chose himself others will just approve him, or another, because there is nothing forcing them to work under him if they don't like it. Only really good and skilled people will be listened by others.

More stories :
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At the age of 33, Matthew Maury, an officer in the U.S. Navy, found that his hopes of advancement in the Navy were ended, having sustained disabling injuries in an accident. From then on, he studied the ocean with the logbooks available to him in his work at the Naval Observatory. Writings include his 1855 Physical Geography of the Sea. Maury is known as the father of modern oceanography and naval meteorology and one of the most important scientists of the nineteenth century.
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Fired from his job as editorial cartoonist of the New York Daily Journal, John Barrymore joined a theatrical company in Chicago headed by a distant relative. He is frequently called the greatest actor of his generation
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Convicted of manslaughter and violent acts in prison, Robert Stroud was imprisoned in Leavenworth for thirty years. He developed a keen interest in birds after finding an injured bird in the recreation yard. In time he was allowed to breed birds and maintain a laboratory inside two adjoining isolation cells. As a result of this privilege, Stroud was able to author two books on canaries and their diseases, having raised nearly 300 birds in his cells, carefully studying their habits and physiology. He even developed and marketed medicines for various bird ailments. Although it is widely debated whether the remedies he developed were effective, Stroud was able to make scientific observations that would later benefit research on the canary species.
Imagine what people would do if they were free do do what they like. Not saying "don't have time for play". Play is life. If you do something you like, even as an adult, that is "play" it's the continuation of the creative person you once were as a child, when you "played" all day. You need no reward for it, the activity and result itself is the reward.
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