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Originally Posted by pai mei
Aceventura3 all looks good on paper. Look at third world countries were people eat dirt while capitalist corporations grow food. It does not matter it's their country, the food is not for them. Or look at Niger's delta.
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Please provide an example of a third world country where this happens. In third world countries, people generally eat "dirt" because the land cannot support the current population. This can be caused by bad soil, or by things like wars.
I haven't seen a country where "capitalist corporations" force the population to starve. I have in fact seen a country where getting rid of those bad capitalists has led to starvation (Zimbabwe)
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guyy I don't have that book. Communism did not renounce money and that was it's biggest mistake.
The disappearance of money is very important for a real civilized society to form. There will be no more crime - nothing to steal. Steal what ? Food which is free for everybody ?
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I guess there was no crime back in ye olde pre-money days then. No murders, no rapes, no coveting of the neighbors wife/ox? Even if we limit crime to stealing, even without money and with free food, there'll be plenty of other things to steal.
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The only reason for organized crime will remain slavery. I am sure most rich people of
today would hate my system. Not having anyone to do stuff for them, and having no means to lure people or to force people to work for them.
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I myself don't feel "forced" to work at all. I actually quite enjoy myself at work. There's nobody forcing me to do anything. And even though I'm not particularly rich, I would also hate your system. I can't imagine being happy in a society where 90% of the population is too damn lazy to improve their own lives, and where such improvements are even frowned upon.
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Today is very simple to have a slave cook your food, clean your house and so on if you have money. His survival depends on it.
"No" some say , he is free to go. Ya right, he is "free", you don't kill him if he tries to go away, like they used to kill slaves. Go where ?
Also slaves of the past got free food and home. Now slaves get only money, and indeed a better treatment. Obtained trough countless revolutions, not because of the good will of the slave masters.
"It's his fault, he should have gotten a better education, and then a better job" some say. Yes sure. Maybe he did not have the chance. And who will do all the dirty or repetitive and boring jobs if everybody will be a manager ? Capitalism and today;s society is based on slavery, without the threat to their survival there would be no people for those jobs.
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Capitalism has NOTHING to do with slavery. Generally, capitalist countries tend to be democratic, free countries. If you want to look for slaves, you have to look at dictatorships and former communist countries.
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"People got to work ! That is life !" No it's not. That is why we have invented machines, to work less. And see this :
I do not write here because of the economic crisis. Even without it there is something very wrong with our society. People forced to get money to survive, and they get money by building stuff that must be bought, then thrown away fast then bought again, else they lose their jobs. This life is more than survival, ownership and control. And people are not inherently evil, those who say : "this is the only way to live" are very wrong.
People want to be part of something , and seek a group to belong to. They would work for that group for "free" if allowed to. That is how tribal societies worked, each helped the group knowing he will be helped too.
Today's society denies that, it's each for himself, the only thing left for them is to get rich and "escape" and be "successful".
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Perhaps you should look beyond your own (parody of your) country. There's plenty of people being part of groups, and doing work for free. Not everything is as black and white as you claim it to be.