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Old 06-09-2003, 01:03 PM   #18 (permalink)
seretogis
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hrdwareguy: There is a large list of requirements (most of which are common sense, but I will list them for others' benefit as well), but once you meet the requirements you are able to carry any legal firearm, and it is strongly suggested that you keep it concealed whenever possible. While it is technically not required to keep the firearm concealed at all times, we were explained the risks of not doing so (including possibly being arrested if anyone felt that they were threatened by the presence of a firearm, thanks to a police force that hates guns).

+ You must be 21
+ complete an authorized training course (the AACFI course that I took covers "safe use of a pistol", "fundamentals of pistol use", "fundamental legal aspects of pistol posession carry and use, including self-defense and the restrictions on the use of deadly force", "requires a 30 round shooting exercise". For the shooting exercise, you have to get 70% of points from 15 rounds at 15ft and 15 rounds at 21ft).
+ not be committed as mentally ill/mentally retarded/ever found incompetent to stand trial or not guilty by reason of mental ilness
+ not be committed as chemically dependent
+ not be a peace officer informally admitted to treatment facilities for chemical dependency
+ not be a fugitive from justice (that one is a shocker!)
+ not an illegal alien
+ not dishonorably discharged from the armed forces
+ have not renounced their U.S. citizenship
+ have not ever been convicted of a felony-level crime in any state. This includes murder, manslaughter, assault, simple or aggravated robbery, criminal sexual conduct, neglect or endangerment of a child, arson, terroristic threats, rioting, harassment/stalking, or violation of controlled substance laws.

Even after proving that you are a law-abiding citizen who has been trained in the use of a firearm and how to carry one (preferably concealed), you cannot carry them in the following places:

+ correctional facilities or state hospitals
+ county jails
+ elementary and secondary school grounds except when stored in a motor vehicle
+ facilities under exclusive temporary control of a school, school association, or district (arenas, for example)
+ courthouse complexes, unless the sheriff is notified in advance
+ the capitol area, unless the commissioner of public safety is notified in advance
+ afield while hunting big game by archery, except bear
+ federal court or other federal facilities

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Originally posted by Redirect
ummm no, guns kill.
One of the things which is repeated several times by the instructor during the training class is that "defending yourself with a gun does not change the situation, it just makes you a different kind of victim". It can save your life, but you still will need to deal with the physiological effects of discharging a firearm at another human being, and of being victimized.
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