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Originally Posted by pan6467
The guy throwing the tantrum has a name, it's PAN6467.
Really, how are we more protectionist? I'd really like to hear this. Considering China and Japan can subsidize their steel industry and cry if we even talk about raising tariffs on their product, yet they will tax ours out of competition. And it's not just steel.
We bow to the WTO and without any fight freely abide by their rules. And if we don't and they complain we acquiesce to their demands even if it is detrimental to our nation. Yet, China and others out there can use slave labor, child labor, sweatshops and pay non liveable wages and the WTO says and does nothing, except maybe want us and OUR US tax money to police that country? Yeah..... about that. here's a news flash for you: WE CAN'T FUCKING AFFORD IT ANYMORE AND THE PLAYING FIELD THE WTO IS SUPPOSED TO KEEP LEVEL HAS BEEN A JOKE AND HEAVILY DETRIMENTAL TO THE US AND HER PEOPLE AND YOU FUCKS DON'T CARE YOU WANT MORE AND MORE FROM US.
(So sorry, that's a juvenile rant but so true.)
So please enlighten me how we are more protectionist than anyone else out there, I'd really like to know.
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I would love concrete examples of how the WTO is in any way more lax against other nations, and I would like concrete examples of the US "bowing down" to the WTO. Of the 47 cases the US brought against other nations from 95 to 2005, it won 44. And I don't know if you know this, but in case of non compliance, what the WTO does is allow retaliatory quotas and tariffs. In other words, the US, being the largest market in the world, is still more powerful than other nations in enforcing WTO's decisions.
As far as labor rights, they are not a part of WTO's tasks. In any case, the majority of companies that are using that slave labor are American owned companies who repatriate the profits to the US.
With regards to subsidies, in farm subsidies alone the US spends 17 billion dollars on average each year, not to mention non-tariff barriers like quotas and so on.
And while US tariffs on manufactured products is very low, it still has incredibly high tariffs on agricultural goods, steel, and other primary goods which is what developing nations are specialized in.
Just as a comparison, the average tariff that Brazilian goods pay when they enter the US market is 46%, while the average tariff that American goods pay when imported by Brazil is 14%.
In fact, most of the criticism of the WTO from around the world is precisely that it tends to favor developed nations disproportionately, especially the US.
Maybe next time less "fuck you"s and more reasoned, data based discussion will be more productive.