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Old 01-30-2009, 09:08 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Many modern-day historians support that it's more than likely that Leonardo da Vinci (as one example) was a closet atheist (and more than likely a closet homosexual, too). Likewise, it is supported that Niccolo Machiavelli (as another example) was more than likely an atheist.
K. I mean I've heard that Da Vinci was an atheist, but I've never seen anything other than disagreements with the Catholic Church. Same thing with Niccolo Machiavelli. I'm not sure disagreement with the current incarnation of the church demonstrates atheism; I just see dissent.
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Whatever.
Oh comon. You posted some very melodramatic stuff:
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So, it would not be surprising (to me, at least) to find that many of the seeming proponents of religion, particularly those proponents of Fundamentalist Christianity and those who are involved in corporate and/or political power, are secretly agnostic or even atheistic. All the more probable for those who have been active and gained power amidst the fear-mongering that followed 9/11.
You said that it's probable that those who have been active and gained power amidst the fear-mongering that followed 9/11 are atheists. You're going to need to back that up. Or don't and let it sit there unaddressed.
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I don't know why you bring this up.
You accused atheists of fear-mongering following 9/11, suggesting that atheists can be connected with unethical or immoral behavior. Bringing up the fact that statistically there are less atheists per capita in prison demonstrates at least a correlative link between lawfulness and atheism.
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Anyway, you should read more information about that subject, before you present us with your supposition of the data you cited. For example...

Prison Incarceration and Religious Preference
The link assumes some great amount of "unknown" are atheists, which is a baseless assumption. There's no reason to think that based on the information available.

If you'd like, we can go visit a few prisons and test this. Until then, the verifiable studies available stand.
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