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Old 01-29-2009, 11:16 AM   #67 (permalink)
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that depends entirely on where you are, both geographically and economically.
So you're suggesting that fat people don't have access to healthy foods? Economically, I've already had the debate about how unhealthy food is cheaper. It's not. I'm more than willing to demonstrate that again. The assumption then falls to location. Well, there are more obese people in the US than anywhere else on the planet. Are you suggesting that people in the US don't have access to healthy foods? How is it that they can have access to unhealthy foods and not have access to healthy foods? Even 7/11 has sandwiches with lean meats an veggies on wheat bread. Even McDonalds has salads that you don't have to eat the dressing with. Where are these mystery locations where people only have access to unhealthy foods?
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this applies not only within the united states, but in the world.
obesity is not only an american problem. it's global.
and this is pretty basic.
I don't think it's honest to call obesity a global problem. Obesity is really only common among westernized cultures, and it's really only a problem in the US, Mexico, and the UK, namely the US.
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the problem with confronting these facts is that it undercuts the self-righteousness, which starts from the assumption that everywhere is just like where you are--so that the same range of alternatives you have are everywhere. that's obvious false.
Assuming that obesity is a global problem assumes that everywhere is like we are, which isn't the case. But most places with any kind of media do have advertisements for McDonalds and Pepsi, just like the US. If you don't believe me, we can travel to Italy, Japan, and other places that don't have high obesity rates.
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the third is that the way you are is the way everyone should be, so that any "failing" can be judged easily. this is a variant of the others, and is only worth noting because it seems to be the sanctimoniousness generator.
No one should be like me. One is more than enough.

People should, though, take responsibility for their health, and it's not some horrible intrusion of privacy to point out that some people are obese and they should do something about it. It's not ridicule to say "You have a fault, and you should do this about it".
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