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roachboy · 01-29-2009, 05:05 AM

the way i read the op, sf undestands himself as having cold-cocked two people who were passing on the street because he was in a pissy mood.
that's not a fight--it's an arbitrary act of violence.

the center of the story he presents seems to be surprise and a bit of bewilderment that he could have done such a thing--the description of the heavy, fizzy hands comes out of that kind of focus, it seems to me---it sounds like the central moment was one of a transfer of control from the mind to the heavy, fizzy hands--and it reads as dissociative.
particularly if you line it up, as others have, with the post from a couple weeks ago about depression/withdrawal.

i would be concerned, sf.
and you are obviously concerned.
i would consider it a warning amongst others that you have trouble controlling certain types of emotion, that you may become a danger to yourself and to others, and would get help.

i don't buy any of the manly man "don't worry about it" nonsense, particularly not the argument that arbitrary violence is not really arbitrary because it lets you "explore human nature." that's adolescent fratboy horseshit. i prefer to think it's messageboard posturing as well, that it has little to do with how anyone comports themselves in 3-d. but the main reason i don't buy it is that it seems to misinterpret the description in the op, flatten it out, make it into something it's not--a description of a fist fight--which presupposes a situation that the actors involved all know about. in the op, the only one who knew about the situation "fight" was strange famous. that is not ok.

01-29-2009, 05:05 AM	#25 (permalink)
roachboy Super Moderator Location: essex ma	the way i read the op, sf undestands himself as having cold-cocked two people who were passing on the street because he was in a pissy mood. that's not a fight--it's an arbitrary act of violence. the center of the story he presents seems to be surprise and a bit of bewilderment that he could have done such a thing--the description of the heavy, fizzy hands comes out of that kind of focus, it seems to me---it sounds like the central moment was one of a transfer of control from the mind to the heavy, fizzy hands--and it reads as dissociative. particularly if you line it up, as others have, with the post from a couple weeks ago about depression/withdrawal. i would be concerned, sf. and you are obviously concerned. i would consider it a warning amongst others that you have trouble controlling certain types of emotion, that you may become a danger to yourself and to others, and would get help. i don't buy any of the manly man "don't worry about it" nonsense, particularly not the argument that arbitrary violence is not really arbitrary because it lets you "explore human nature." that's adolescent fratboy horseshit. i prefer to think it's messageboard posturing as well, that it has little to do with how anyone comports themselves in 3-d. but the main reason i don't buy it is that it seems to misinterpret the description in the op, flatten it out, make it into something it's not--a description of a fist fight--which presupposes a situation that the actors involved all know about. in the op, the only one who knew about the situation "fight" was strange famous. that is not ok. __________________ a gramophone its corrugated trumpet silver handle spinning dog. such faithfulness it hear it make you sick. -kamau brathwaite Last edited by roachboy; 01-29-2009 at 05:07 AM..