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Old 01-26-2009, 05:20 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Strange Famous View Post
Every nation has the right to defend itself.

If Mexican terrorists, being sheltered by the Mexican government, were raining rockets down on Texas and claiming that Texas was rightly the property of Mexico and had been illegally annexed by the US, and by the way they were killing a family in Houston at a rate of 1 or 2 a week - would you not expect the US government to act to ensurethe safety of its citizens?

Israel is not trying to conquer another nation, or gain access to any natural resources that happen to be located in another nation, they are asking for their people to be allowed to live in peace, and showing those who will not allow this that they will fight for the right to be left alone.

It doesnt make me happy to see Palestinian civilians killed in bombing raids, any happier than I was for Yugoslav civilians or Iraqi civilians or Afghani civilians to be killed by UN, US or UK forces killed - but if you start at the point that Israel has the right to exist as a nation (which the current Palestinian govt does not agree with)... all Israel is doing is shutting down the rocket attacks on its own people - by a show of superior force.
How about if Mexico was under siege?
How about if Mexico had been on the receiving end of 10x as many casualties over the last 40 years?
How about if Mexico had to dig tunnels through to its neighbouring countries to try and smuggle in the basic necessities of life?
How about there being next to no medicines in the hospitals?
How about if the US had been planning for 12 months, with care and deliberate precision, to commit war crimes against a civilian population?
How about if the US had been sponsored and supplied by a pan-galactic empire, with the Mexican's plight barely registering on the pan-galactic media?

Your analogy is far too flawed to even begin to register the recent situation, let alone bring in any of the baggage.

Hamas currently proclaim that Israel has no right to exist. Israel currently claim that the Palestinians are free to elect any government that Israel chooses. Square that one.

As for Israel not trying to gain any natural resources from the Palestinians... Look away from the slavish majority of the UK media, you might find some interesting reading.

83% of the West Bank's water resources used by? Israel. (W.H.O.)

ReliefWeb » Document » West Bank wall elevates barrier to water access for Palestinians

Israel, to maintain its existence, is currently dependent on West Bank water supplies.

Who controls the seas off Gaza? Hmm. I wonder if there are any other resources in Gaza that have been nicked by the occupying forces?

Alternative Information Center - Israel Continues to Exploit Gaza Resources

There are a few things to chew on.
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