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Old 01-25-2009, 07:15 PM   #20 (permalink)
Atreides88
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atreides: i understand pretty well what the commercial nature of the "free" american press results in. i expect i know more about it, and in more detail, that you do in fact. i say this in part because your comments above blur television journalism entirely into entertainment, and then proceeds to toss off some glib remarks about the "venomous anti-conservative majority" in hollywood---which is a non-sequitor.

so you know, i have no use for conservatism at all.
But you can't deny that it is set up to make money, like all journalist publications and productions.


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but even with that, the way the populist right has pitched the construction of an apparatus of sustained rightwing infotainment as if it balances some largely phantom "liberal bias" amongst news outlets in general is absurd. it's nothing more than a projection which functioned---when it did---to legitimate the construction of an entirely ideological conservative counter-reality, complete with media feedback loops, that enabled a kind of dissociative politics to legitimate itself. if you start from that position, you aren't talking about critical reading of the written press, or critical interpretation of visual media at all.
But if you start at the position that CNN and MSNBC are largely slanted left, then Fox covers the opposite end of the spectrum, thus balancing the asshats on television.


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and it doesn't even represent all forms of conservatism. i know alot of folk who are quite conservative who are entirely capable of critical approaches to most information--but none of them have any use for this type of populist conservatism and it's pseudo-critical view of all forms of information except those which are pitched in a way that makes them feel better. which is what faux news, the washington times, etc. were set up to do for folk, seemingly, like yourself.
I agree with you here. I for one don't watch the talking heads on either of the stations, and the only time I find myself watching Fox News is when they are running headline news and weather, and I find Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly repulsive. My own political views are surely not represented by them. I also agree that most of the editorial-type shows are largely a far-right masturbatory session, and am turned-off by them.
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