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Old 01-25-2009, 12:08 PM   #13 (permalink)
Atreides88
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Originally Posted by shakran View Post
I enjoyed the line "Socialism has failed."

1) so has capitalism, apparently, or did you not notice what the economy is doing now.
2) he's not a socialist.
3) you guys had 30 years to do it your way and it failed. Give someone else a chance.
1) Technically, no. Had the market been able to self-adjust, the firms that are about to fall apart would have failed a long time ago, instead of being propped up by the government even though they were sickly and should have been forced to change their business practices due to market forces.

2) He may not be a dyed-in-the-wool socialist, but he is a big proponent of quasi-socialist policies, and a goodly number of his more vocal supporters are socialists. In Obama's defense, he has become far more centrist as of late.

3) I believe the blame falls on both parties and cannot be shouldered by one single party. Many policies started under Clinton are coming to fruition now, just as much as Bush's and Reagan's policies are. In the end, we as a society are responsible for allowing this to occur because of our own greed and devil-may-care attitude toward the consequences.

4) Fox News is no worse than some of the programming on CNN and MSNBC, just on the opposite end of the continuum. In the end, they're all asshats and anything they say should be taken with a grain of salt. Unless of course you lack the ability to think critically, then join the ranks of mouth-breathers.
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