View Single Post
Old 06-09-2003, 09:50 AM   #72 (permalink)
denim
Banned
 
Location: Massachusetts, USA
Quote:
Originally posted by 4thTimeLucky
In the UK you don't need to drive with a licence, you just need to produce it at a police station within 7 working days of it being requested. How does it work in the US?
If you're stopped while driving, you have to produce your license on the spot. If you don't match the license or don't have one, you can be arrested.

Quote:
No I don't think they made any extra effort. What extra effort do they think they made (other than taking her to court!)?
They offered a clean situation for her personal benefit: a room with only females who would take her picture with no men present. This twit turned them down. They didn't have to offer that.

Quote:
As article said, in 14 states you don't need a photo on the licence.
Yes, and there are 50 states.

Quote:
What is the national security threat posed by not allowing her to use a different form of ID?
Whatever form of id she uses, ultimately it's going to become a photo id, which will require a bare face. There is no escape.


Quote:
To me this is an issue of freedom and religious tolerance, not natuonal security.
Not even close. They don't let Mormons marry multiple women. They won't let AmerIndians smoke peyote. Those are tolerance issues. This is just some twit who doesn't want to comply with simple rules.


Quote:
Organised terrorists would (a) just follow the rules, blend in and not draw attention to themselves as she has, and (b) be well organised and funded enough to buy false driving licences if they needed them.
It doesn't really have anything to do with terrorism. They shouldn't have mentioned that. What it has to do with is being able to positively identify a person. She not only has to allow her picture to be taken, but she also has to prove, during a traffic stop, that she's the person on the license. The only way she's ultimately going to do that is to show her face in public and on the spot. She can't escape AND drive. She can escape OR drive. Period.


Quote:
And as for 'driving is a privilege'. What makes you think that in a country that is founded on extensive individual rights, the freedom of the individual and the limiting of the state.
You're not dealing with the same reality we are. The federal government is God, and can do anything to us serfs. Didn't you know that?

They can steal our property (drug raid! eminent domain!), they can stop us on the street and take us to jail w/o actually charging us, and they HAVE. Recently.
denim is offline  
 

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360