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Originally Posted by dc_dux
dk and crompin:
Just so I understand...
In those 30+ states where anyone can display and sell weapons at gun shows, including Crompsin selling a handgun from his private collection at a gun show in Virginia if he chooses, in order to pay bills....the buyer, who may or may not be a felon, should not be subject to a background check?
And that is not a loophole?
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That is correct. The sole power of congress to regulate firearms resides in the judicially gifted commerce clause loophole. The power to regulate interstate commerce, which now includes intrastate commerce as well, but precludes the private possession of firearms (U.S. v. Lopez). Since congress already regulates the interstate sale of firearms through FFLs, it is not a power of congress to further regulate the private sale and possession of firearms, most notable in their limitation to require background checks or form 4473s for state to state long gun sales and the already assumed power of requiring NICS and 4473s for state to state handgun sales, not same state handgun sales between private individuals. That is not a loophole. It is a limitation on the power of congress.
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Originally Posted by dc_dux
Evidently, federalism and states rights are at the foundation of beliefs for conservatives and libertarians except in the case of state or local actions that may limit gun ownership within the framework of the 2nd amendment.
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ANY aspect of the US constitution, not just the 2nd.
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Originally Posted by roachboy
nice dk--that's like my saying that everyone who lives in a rural space is stupid. both are ridiculous statements, both are patently false.
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The key difference between your statement and mine is you included everyone and I said most.
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Last edited by dksuddeth; 01-21-2009 at 09:13 AM..
Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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