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Tully Mars · 01-20-2009, 05:43 AM

There's also the flip side of Seaver's experience. I'm glad it worked out for him but I've not only seen that backfire I've had it back fire on me. While in the Navy I worked my ass off while assigned to the "general work shop" of my ship. We were in charge of fixing everything from broken ladder railings to clogged toilets. I worked my ass off for a couple reasons. I knew the guy in charge of running the shop was leaving and the more I kept busy the faster the time flew by. Basically I'm happier keeping busy then sitting around doing nothing. When the PIC (petty officer in charge) did leave there was a big meeting with the Chiefs, Senior Chiefs and the Lt. regarding who was going to take over the shop. It really came down to me and another E-5, we were the only two guys with the needed time in rate for the position. I thought it was a no brainer, the other guy spent his days drinking coffee, nursing hang overs and dodging work chits. The guy would disappear with an hour tops work chit and not be seen again until the end of the day. When they announced the position I was stunned. I went up to a Sr. Chief I knew pretty well and politely said "WTF!" He explained to me that they decided he was safest sitting at a desk handing out work chits, if nothing else then they'd know where he was all day. That and I was producing so much that it just made sense. I told him I thought that was complete bullshit. I work my ass off and he does jack shit yet gets the much need supervisory skills in his service record making it easier for him to make E-6. Me- I go back to unclogging toilets. Within a month or two I was assigned a desk job as the supply petty officer for my division. Which beat cleaning toilets but didn't get me the needed supervisory check mark in my service jacket. I left the Navy an E-5 about a year later. Then I left the other guy was an E-6.

I've seen variations of that same thing happen several places, from fast food restaurants to court house offices. Bottom line, as DC points out- someone has to be the worker bee.

01-20-2009, 05:43 AM	#40 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	There's also the flip side of Seaver's experience. I'm glad it worked out for him but I've not only seen that backfire I've had it back fire on me. While in the Navy I worked my ass off while assigned to the "general work shop" of my ship. We were in charge of fixing everything from broken ladder railings to clogged toilets. I worked my ass off for a couple reasons. I knew the guy in charge of running the shop was leaving and the more I kept busy the faster the time flew by. Basically I'm happier keeping busy then sitting around doing nothing. When the PIC (petty officer in charge) did leave there was a big meeting with the Chiefs, Senior Chiefs and the Lt. regarding who was going to take over the shop. It really came down to me and another E-5, we were the only two guys with the needed time in rate for the position. I thought it was a no brainer, the other guy spent his days drinking coffee, nursing hang overs and dodging work chits. The guy would disappear with an hour tops work chit and not be seen again until the end of the day. When they announced the position I was stunned. I went up to a Sr. Chief I knew pretty well and politely said "WTF!" He explained to me that they decided he was safest sitting at a desk handing out work chits, if nothing else then they'd know where he was all day. That and I was producing so much that it just made sense. I told him I thought that was complete bullshit. I work my ass off and he does jack shit yet gets the much need supervisory skills in his service record making it easier for him to make E-6. Me- I go back to unclogging toilets. Within a month or two I was assigned a desk job as the supply petty officer for my division. Which beat cleaning toilets but didn't get me the needed supervisory check mark in my service jacket. I left the Navy an E-5 about a year later. Then I left the other guy was an E-6. I've seen variations of that same thing happen several places, from fast food restaurants to court house offices. Bottom line, as DC points out- someone has to be the worker bee. __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club Last edited by Tully Mars; 01-20-2009 at 05:46 AM..