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Originally Posted by FoolThemAll
You're not interested in arguing your viewpoint?
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I'm not interested in arguing the viewpoint you seem intent on attributing to me.
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You don't read well. I wasn't pointing out that you were hurting their feelings, I was pointing out that your claim to neutrality was laughably and obviously false. So don't claim it.
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And you read too well. Apparently the way I stated the facts was too harsh, and so that means, well, I don't know what that means. I guess that I like taking away the rights of mean people? Or not. You seem rather incapable of offering much besides criticisms of the things I say. Perhaps if you would come out and state exactly what your position is on the matter, then I wouldn't have to hop around from one thing to another trying to figure out just exactly what the point of anything you're saying is.
Here's what happened: some landlords
failed to behave in socially acceptable ways-- they showed an
inability to behave in a way that society found acceptable. I'm sorry that the mere mention of these facts implies about me, well, whatever the hell you think it implies about me. Your attributions of me aren't
my responsibility. I just thought it odd that you'd be so sensitive to language.
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Spoken like a man with an exceptionally shallow understanding of moral rights debates. Not that I'm a prodigy, but... damn. You can clarify why you consider something a moral right or not a moral right. That's more than enough to keep you busy for the rest of your life. Maybe it's because you have superficial reasons for your chosen rights and, thus, everyone else must be like you in this way.
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No, it's not. It's a waste of time-- at least as far as conversations with you have been. Hey FTA, why is abortion murder? Let me answer for you: because it is. That's all moral judgments boil down to: convoluted, self important rationalizations of "because it is".
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Racism in general? Of course not. But we were talking about a specific kind of racism. Beyond meanness, in this context, lies what? What justifies your proposed right to integrated apartments?
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I suggest you reread what I wrote. The part before the only part you responded to. This part:
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Originally Posted by filtherton
Broadly-scoped patterns of discrimination tend to have far reaching effects that overshadow any sort of quaint notion of meanness. When entire neighborhoods become segregated because it is profitable to segregate them then the situation has moved beyond meanness.
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And then think about the ramifications of segregation, and how chalking it up to "meanness" is a gross oversimplification.
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Better yet, before you answer that, answer this: are you interested in defending your viewpoint or are you not?
If you're not, please stop half-pretending that you are.
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I'm not interested in defending phantom viewpoints that you seem to be reading in between the lines of what I'm actually writing, if that's what you're asking. Besides, you ought to offer up some sort of viewpoint of your own before you criticize my ability to defend my viewpoint (regardless of whether it's actually my viewpoint or not). This sideways-socratic method thing you do is kind of annoying.