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Originally Posted by Crompsin
Nope. Never have. Once again, please stop pigeonholing me with the rest of the Branch Nutjobians here.
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Alright. I'm sorry, then. I misread.
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Rights are great and all... but every right has an endless fine-print listing of "BUTs" and "EXCEPT WHENs." tagged on the end that gets added every time another veneer-equipped suit takes office or terrorists attack.
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Which is my point. Pro-gun people in this thread have been loudly proclaiming that having a gun is a RIGHT and that they will shoot anyone who tries to take the gun away from them. But, despite the fact that the government is eagerly restricting and confiscating weapons of all kinds, guns included, they're not shooting. So there's a logical disconnect here that I'm trying to get to the bottom of. Otherwise it's a bunch of people with Rambo fantasies who won't actually back up what they're boasting about in here.
I am not offering an opinion here on whether or not having a gun is a right. I'm saying that there are people in here claiming it is a right, and claiming that they need the guns to keep their rights, and yet they aren't doing anything to stop the erosion of the rights they claim to have.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
It's kind of funny thinking about this. In the past, we actually had rights once. Then when those rights got included to groups of people a majority of elitists didn't think should have them, they all became burdened with the reasonableness standard. Then, when some people actually try to put forth the argument that if we truly believe we have the right, we don't need to justify it, just do it. Well horseshit. What happens to the person who says 'fuck it, its my right', and then runs afoul of some peoples 'reasonableness'? They get fucked by a system that others no longer liked because it didn't suit them. Thats why I say shoot the fuckers.
Tired of this reasonableness shit, social contract stupidity that gets defined by people who usually know crap about the subject anyway, just decide based on their bullshit emotions, and THEN, when someone actually dares challenge the so called establishment to assert their rights, they get called 'branch nutjobians'.
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So what are you going to do about it? You're one of the loudest pro-gun, "it's a right, dammit" voices in here and yet you aren't using your guns for the reason the 2nd ammendment fanclub claims to need them. Why not?