Thread: gaza redux
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Old 01-13-2009, 01:26 PM   #208 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by tisonlyi View Post
Would you prefer that people in Northern Ireland where still blowing up and shooting one another? That people in the UK should still be terrorised by bombs and bomb threats?

accept some pain on a road to peace, or accept oceans of agony in continued war, there are your choices.

I would accept your analogy, and agree with you, if I believed that Hamas and other organizations would eventually stop if Israel simply chose to ignore the attacks.

I still don't agree that Israel should have to ignore the attacks in a hope that they will eventually stop (as with the Norther Ireland situation). However, it would without a doubt be in their best interest if they would, assuming that with time the attacks would not escalate, and there would not be any plans to execute something much worse. Which is a huge assumption.

That being said, I do believe Hamas and other organizations wouldn't stop until Israel, as a nation, was gone. That belief really is at the heart of the disagreement between me and you (and I suspect others).

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Complete and total victory comes through the death camp or in a movie. In reality, people just don't give up like that while they still have breath, no matter what happens... and the indiscriminate killing of civilians will only raise a greater army of those willing to die to get revenge.

Roughly 25% of those killed in gaza at the moment were children. How many parents, siblings and relatives do you think that will raise up against Israel? How much money do you think will be thrown at them from the arab states to try and get their revenge?

250 children... That's an entire, fair sized school. Just try to picture it.
Does this work the same the other way? Does the Israeli fear of losing loved ones on buses, or at sbarro restaurants incite the same feeling?

Of course.

Which leads me back to my original line of thought, I really think that Israel finds itself in a dichotomy. Respond with force or accept the consequences of doing nothing. It is unfortunate that a multitude of every day people that do not want any harm done to Israel or themselves are caught in the middle.

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