Thread: gaza redux
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Old 01-11-2009, 03:01 PM   #173 (permalink)
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all i did was to position your viewpoint in the space it belongs--the far right of the israeli political spectrum. and then, because i was inclined to actually take you a bit seriously in the context of this debate, i posted an article that demonstrated what i was saying.
which i do not expect you actually read. notnasty.
your position requires no actual information, so it's not surprising, somehow, that there is no particular need to acquire any.


one of the most tiresome tasks that has come up over and over in this thread, and in nearly every other debate involving palestine and israel, it pushing back at this tendency on the part mostly of american supporters of israel who seem imagine that because they only know one political line on the topic that there is only one political line. over and over the same thing.

it is ultimately not my problem that you appear to know nothing about the political spectrum in israel, that you appear to know nothing about the diversity of views in israel. if you knew what you were talking about, you wouldn't be so quick to buy into this one-dimensional narratives that are free of any context and so are free of any danger of actually addressing what's happening.

over and over, the reverse side of this one-dimensional view of gaza is another--that somehow if you are critical of the patent lunacy of the israeli action that you support hamas, that if you focus on the civilian population of gaza which is trapped in place BECAUSE of the israeli blockade that you are somehow excusing rocket attacks.

sometimes, in particularly delightful examples of one-dimensional thinking on this, you get these quaint little scenarios involving abstract house number one and abstract house number two, in which one house is full of people who just decided one fine day to start lobbing rockets at the other. no context, no information, no nothing.

every last bit of these arguments is made up of nothing but strawmen, lined up one after another.

things get complicated when you start actually look at and thinking about a world that is not locked into moralizing fables the sole function of which is to justify the occupation in general, the actions within the occupation, the demonization of palestinians and by extension to rationalize away what is by any rational standard a sequence of atrocities interspersed with an all-considered, self-defeating military action.
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