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Originally Posted by roachboy
slims---i've said this repeatedly, but again the main fuck-up i attribute to the bush administration is their participation in and support of the decision regarding the jan 06 elections. both are simple matters of record. there's no debate about them. we can discuss the question of whether this was in fact as catastrophically bad a decision as i think it was---and i would argue that the situation that is happening now demonstrates just what a bad idea it was---but if we do, at least we'll be on the same page.
supporting an ally does not preclude making horrible choices.
rigid, unthinking support is characterized by the inability to recognize horrible choices and allowing yourself, and your ally, to be boxed in by those horrible choices.
that is a Problem. that is a Problem visited upon the civilian population because of the bush people. and i think that this Problem is more determing of the fiasco in gaza than are the actions of hamas---and this without in any way saying that hamas plays no role. they do, they have. this is self-evident.
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baraka--thanks for that information. it's really interesting.
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I have to make this quick because I have a dinner date. I agree it was monumentally stupid for us (and the rest of the world) to support elections in Gaza when the only two choices were between an inept government and a terrorist group. By allowing those elections to take place we were rolling the dice with regards to legitimizing Hamas with very little potential gain if things went our way.
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