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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
Governments are created by man. Governments are created to serve and protect the rights of man. Citizens are not subjects of the government, otherwise you place government as the master and the US constitution says the complete opposite.
Again, that may not be the way that european countries work, but it is supposed to be that type of relationship here in the US.
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Are you suggesting America should do away with such things as the Pledge of Allegiance and such trappings of nationhood that encourages its citizens to recognize and/or declare their status as subjects?
If you don't believe you are a subject of the U.S., the next time you go to a Third World country, toss out your passport. And when you try to leave, tell them you are a "freeman," not a subject of the U.S., and that you are free to go wherever you please and see what happens. If they decide to deport you, do you think you'll be free to choose where to go?
If you don't believe you are a subject, stop recognizing all American laws and see how fast you realize how "free" you are. Stop paying all your taxes, "freeman," and see what happens.
It is that you
are a subject of the U.S. that you are protected by the U.S. Constitution. It is why I'm not protected by it but instead by Canada's constitution. I'm a subject of Canada. The Queen of England is my head of state, regardless of what I think.
I think you might be missing the point. You are subject of a nation that demands you be free and autonomous. How is that suggesting mastery over you? This is far different than what you'd get, say, in North Korea, which has a different set of demands.
All this is why your government will not take away all your guns. It's not interested in that.
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Originally Posted by Crompsin
People who write gun laws know nothing about firearms outside of their Hollywood education.
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Does this include those with their own firearms collections?